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On Torture, and Being Tortured . by Alice B. Clagett

On Torture, and Being Tortured

Image Markup: “Negative Energies Conveyed Through Feelings of Sadism and Masochism,” adapted by Alice B. Clagett, 7 November 2022, CC BY-SA 4.0 International, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com … COMMENTS: The colors of the first, second, and third chakras of those who torture, and of those who are tortures, are tainted with darkness. In this image, dark bands of red, orange, and yellow light proceed from the torsos of the torturers and their energy pierces the torso of the man being tortured. –Alice B. Clagett … CREDITS: Image: “The Flagellation of Christ,” by Anton Raphael Mengs, 1769, in Wikimedia Commons … https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:La_flagelaci%C3%B3n_de_Cristo,_de_Anton_Raphael_Mengs_(Palacio_Real_de_Madrid).jpg … public domain

Image Markup: “Negative Energies Conveyed Through Feelings of Sadism and Masochism,” adapted by Alice B. Clagett, 7 November 2022, CC BY-SA 4.0 International, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com

COMMENTS: The colors of the first, second, and third chakras of those who torture, and of those who are tortures, are tainted with darkness. In this image, dark bands of red, orange, and yellow light proceed from the torsos of the torturers and their energy pierces the torso of the man being tortured. –Alice B. Clagett …

CREDITS: Image: “The Flagellation of Christ,” by Anton Raphael Mengs, 1769, in Wikimedia Commons … https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:La_flagelaci%C3%B3n_de_Cristo,_de_Anton_Raphael_Mengs_(Palacio_Real_de_Madrid).jpg … public domain

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  • A DREAM ABOUT TORTURING SOMEONE WHO APPEARS TO BE DIFFERENT
  • ARTICLES ON TORTURE
  • HAZING AS A RITE OF PASSAGE IN GROUPS OF YOUNG MEN
    • Groups of Young Men and the Issue of PTSD
    • Hypotheses
      • Fight or Flight Response Flip Flop
      • Tortured or Torture Response Flip Flop
  • THERAPEUTIC SOLUTIONS

Dear Ones,

This blog is about a dream I had about a man who was in danger of being tortured and some research I did because of the dream.

A DREAM ABOUT TORTURING SOMEONE WHO APPEARS TO BE DIFFERENT

I woke up with another dream tonight; this time, I saw what seemed to be a good looking Puerto Rican man, dressed in black, in a dark place … my feeling was, in the woods somewhere. He said to me …

I don’t understand. They hired me as a driver. They said it was important that I speak Latin, but no one here speaks Latin. What should I do?

My higher mind said something rational to him on the clair plane, such as …

Do what you think necessary, considering the situation.

But my gut brain had another message for him … Danger! Danger! … and apparently his gut brain got that message right away.

Gosh, what a dream! There were so many people glommed to that dream, wanting to sit in and observe what might have been about to develop into a ‘torture the one who is different’ dream. Gosh.

ARTICLES ON TORTURE

Just now I did some reading on torture …

Link: “Torture Is a Form of Trauma; Trauma Causes PTSD,” by Mark Dombeck, Ph.D., 1 October 2006, updated 1 September 2016 … In MentalHealth.net … https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/torture-is-a-form-of-trauma-trauma-causes-ptsd/ ..

Link: “This is How It Feels to Torture,” by Lydia DePillis, 11 December 2014, in The Washington Post … https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/12/11/this-is-how-it-feels-to-torture/?utm_term=.dd99b5d131f3 ..

HAZING AS A RITE OF PASSAGE IN GROUPS OF YOUNG MEN

I have  read that group initiation techniques for gang members may involve ‘hazing’, and that this may be a ‘rite of passage’, I note this in young male groups in two contexts: street gangs and college fraternities …

Link: “Into the Abyss: A Personal Journey into the World of Street Gangs,” by Mike Carlie, Ph.D., continually updated …  https://people.missouristate.edu/michaelcarlie/what_i_learned_about/gangs/join_a_gang.htm .. I found this factual article to be very informative.

Link: “Hazing: Why Young Men Do It,” by Benjamin Redford, Live Science Contributor, 14 May 2008 … https://www.livescience.com/2528-hazing-young-men.html ..

Apparently, this hazing is a rite of passage for young men. A test of manhood. These tests of manhood can leave scars, both in those tested, and in those that test. And also in out-group members who are the object of manhood tests …

Groups of Young Men and the Issue of PTSD

Apparently, urban violence, putatively sometimes gang-related, causes PTSD in victims of violence …

Link: “Guns: The PTSD Crisis That’s Being Ignored: Americans Wounded in Their Own Neighborhoods: Americans in violent neighborhoods are developing PTSD at rates similar to combat veterans. Why aren’t hospitals screening them? It costs money,” by Lois Beckett, 3 February 2014 … https://www.propublica.org/article/the-ptsd-crisis-thats-being-ignored-americans-wounded-in-their-own-neighbor ..

In addition, membership in street gangs apparently can cause PTSD …

Link: “Gang Membership: Links to Violence Exposure, Paranoia, PTSD, Anxiety, and Forced Control of Behavior in Prison,” by J. Wood and S. Dennard, in Psychiatry. 2017 Spring;80(1):30-41. doi: 10.1080/00332747.2016.1199185 … https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28409716 ..

From my reading, I gather there are issues of PTSD for groups of young men who experience being hazed, or who haze, and for out-group members whom they may haze.

Hypotheses

Fight or Flight Response Flip Flop. In earlier blogs, I mentioned that the fight or flight response can flip flop back and forth … One moment a person is in panic mode, and the next they may turn, on the astral plane, to attack mode. I have clair heard this happen time after time on the astral plane.

Tortured or Torture Response Flip Flop. Could it also be that physical experiences of being tortured, or of torturing, might flip back and forth as well? On the physical plane, could a person who has been hazed in a rite of passage flip to ‘I will torture’ mode? Could it be that groups of young men who have been initiated through hazing might expand torture activities to include people outside the gang? Say, with planned intervals of rape or torture, as a way to reinforce camaraderie?

THERAPEUTIC SOLUTIONS

The issue, as I see it, is that acts of torture are not condoned by society. Thus, repeated acts of rape or torture may result in social sanctions, possibly even brutal social sanctions such as capital punishment.

Thus I propose that those involved in planned intervals of rape or torture seek expert help in determining the trigger points, so that they themselves can put a damper on ‘acting out’. Acting out puts a damper on Soul healing, because every instance of acting out … such as torturing a person perceived to be ‘different’ from oneself … compounds the original Soul wounding. Thus I suggest the various forms of therapy for PTSD that are available today …

Link: “Preventing Gang Violence by Offering a Community,” by Allen Fennewald, 21 December 2016 … http://youthtoday.org/2016/12/preventing-gang-violence-by-offering-a-community/ ..

Link: “Post-traumatic Stress Disorder,” from the NIH: National Institute of Mental Health …  https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/post-traumatic-stress-disorder-ptsd/index.shtml ..

Headway made through therapy clears the way for the process of Soul healing through the Incoming Light can be expedited.

I also feel it might be good for each group of young men to consider what would be the optimum test of manhood within the context of that group, taking into consideration the issues of PTSD and the future need for adjustment to mainstream life as they mature and have families of their own.

Well, that is all I have for now on this very difficult topic.

In love, light and joy
This is Alice B. Clagett.
I Am of the Stars … and so are you!

Written and published on 2 February 2018; revised on 7 November 2023

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Three Walking Meditations . gifted by Spirit, through Alice B. Clagett *

Written and published on 12 December 2017

Dear Ones,

Here are three walking meditations gifted by Spirit, through Alice B. Clagett …

Link: “Walking Meditation #1: HEART,” by Alice B. Clagett, published on 1 March 2015 … https://wp.me/p2Rkym-2PO ..

Link: “Walking Meditation #2. ENERGY,” by Alice B. Clagett, published on 1 March 2015 … https://wp.me/p2Rkym-2PU ..

Link: “Walking Meditation #3: THIRD-EYE POINT,” by Alice B. Clagett, published on 1 March 2015; republished on 12 December 2017 … https://wp.me/p2Rkym-2PM ..

In love, light and joy
This is Alice B. Clagett.
I Am of the Stars … and so are you!

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Incarnational Touchstones . a vision by Alice B. Clagett

Filmed on 10 August 2016; published on 13 August 2016; transcribed on 6 October 2018; revised on 23 June 2020
Previously titled: Incarnational Touchstones and Rites of Passage  … and …  Incarnational Touchstones and Archetypal Sounds
The Summary of the Video has been revised and excerpted to “My Memories of Other Incarnations.”

  • VIDEO BY ALICE
  • SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO
    • Introduction
    • Archetypal Sounds: Rites of Passage
  • ARCHETYPAL SOUNDS OF EARTH
  • MORE INFORMATION
  • PHOTOS BY ALICE

Image: “The River,” by Carla Lovato … https://i.etsystatic.com/5581158/r/il/eedccd/79572444/il_570xN.79572444.jpg … DESCRIPTION: Flowing diagonally through the image, from upper right to lower left, is a watercourse with the faces of 11 men and women in it. Top left: A full moon shining over a barren, craggy landscape. Bottom right: A tree with a thick trunk and strong roots. Imprint: “copyright Carla Lovato” … COMMENT: This image was eerily close to that I saw in the vision described below, except that I saw a river that was a time tunnel. Archetypal Sounds floating swiftly along, and the time tunnel was flowing out away from me, from outside my bedroom window.

Dear Ones,

This video is a description of a vision of incarnational touchstones. Also, the importance of rites of passage. There is an edited Summary after the video …

VIDEO BY ALICE

SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO

Hello, Dear Ones, It’s Alice. I Am of the Stars.

Introduction

I thought I would tell you about a vision I had years ago … the same year that my mother passed on …

I had an experience of very deep Soul anxiety, many years ago. I remember lying in bed for three days, feeling that I could not move, and that there was nothing at all that I could do about it. And that had to do with the experience of deep grief that I was feeling.

Archetypal Sounds: Rites of Passage

And during those three days … from which I eventually arose, a completely different person … during that time of transition, I had a very deep vision one night. I fell into a vision of being in a time tunnel, and of experiencing a lifetime … not the current lifetime, but another lifetime … as sounds of Rites of Passage [or alternatively, as ‘Archeypal Sounds’].

There were only four; and those summed up the entire lifetime …

  • I heard the wail of a baby being born … the first cry of a child …
  • I heard the ecstatic cry of a woman, as she climaxed during intercourse …
  • I heard her cry out in anguish as she gave birth …
  • And I heard the last sob of breath, as she passed on, from physical, into astral form …

And those sounds disappeared down the tunnel of time that I envisioned, They disappeared and whirled away.

That was an incredible experience. Ever since then, I have taken into account what this society so frequently overlooks: The milestones of the evolution of a human life. And I feel that, in future, these milestones will receive more recognition, through Ceremony, in human society.

And surely it should be so, that the entire community would recognize …

  • the child reaching puberty;
  • the rite of union, whether it be through marriage or however it should evolve in future;
  • the rite of birth … that is another wonderful experience that deserves nurturing … it deserves some people in the community helping a pregnant woman, and helping after the birth, I feel … and honoring that experience, so that the child can have a good start in life.
  • and the rite of death … that that milestone should no longer be veiled in secrecy, but rather, celebrated in joy.

That is my story for the moment. God bless you all.

ARCHETYPAL SOUNDS OF EARTH

One way to hold the sounds described above is as archetypal sounds. Along these lines, here is these haunting NASA recordings of the archetypal sounds of planet Earth …

Link: Golden Record: Sounds of Earth, by NASA … https://soundcloud.com/nasa/sets/golden-record-sounds-of ..

Link: 
“Golden Record: Sounds of Earth,” by NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory/CalTech Institute … https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/golden-record/whats-on-the-record/sounds/ .

NASA is not far off in recording these Sounds of Earth and send them into space; I feel that archetypal sounds such as those I heart are imprinted on the Akashic records in Rites of Passage during the span of a human lifetime. Thus, in a sense, they are the permanent record of humankind, hurled out into space and kept safe in our local and Universal Akashic record storage facilities.

I feel that the Akashic records of humankind comprise, at their core, both these Archetypal Sounds and the Archetypal Images described by Carl Jung. As to the latter, I am happy to have contributed what I might …

Link: “Archetypal Images to Support and Protect Humankind,” by Alice B. Clagett, published on 20 September 2016; revised on 20 August 2017 … https://wp.me/p2Rkym-6ab ..

In love, light and joy
This is Alice B. Clagett.
I Am of the Stars … and so are you!

The Summary of the Video in blue or green font have been excerpted to … Link: “Tiny Anthologies: Incarnational Memories,” by Alice B. Clagett, compiled from prior blogs on 10 February 2019; revised … https://wp.me/p2Rkym-bCE ..

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See Link: “12 Rituals to Reopen Your Life,” by Charlotte Eulette, 27 January 2012 … http://spiritualityhealth.com/articles/12-rituals-reopen-your-life ..

Here is another rite of passage, offered once a year by Earth Skills of Frazier Park, CA …

Link: The Solo Spiritual Quest, in Class Descriptions, at Earth Skills … http://www.earthskills.com/class-descriptions.html#solo ..

PHOTOS BY ALICE

Image: “Magenta Flowers on a Tree 1,” by Alice B. Clagett, 10 August 2016, CC BY-SA 4.0

Image: “Magenta Flowers on a Tree 1,” by Alice B. Clagett, 10 August 2016, CC BY-SA 4.0

Image: “Magenta Flowers on a Tree 2,” by Alice B. Clagett, 10 August 2016, CC BY-SA 4.0

Image: “Magenta Flowers on a Tree 2,” by Alice B. Clagett, 10 August 2016, CC BY-SA 4.0

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Ways to Attain Liberation . by Alice B. Clagett *

  • VIDEO BY ALICE
  • SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO
    • Stories by Alice: Thoughts on Ways to Attain Liberation
      • “Meditation for Abundance of Wealth or Love,” Chanted (But Not Created) by Alice B. Clagett, Soundtrack and Words
    • The Trouble with the Yogic Superpowers
    • On Using Drugs to Attain Yogic Superpowers
    • Optimizing Timelines to Avoid Using Yogic Superpowers for Worldly Gain
    • For the Skeptic: A ‘What-If’ Exercise
    • Photos by Alice

Dear Ones,

In this video are thoughts on how to attain God consciousness, based on “How to Know God: The Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali,” with commentary by Swami Prabhavananda, translated by Christopher Isherwood …

Citation: “How to Know God: The Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali,” translated with a commentary by Swami Prabhavananda and Christopher Isherwood, copyright 1953, 1981 by The Vedanta Society of Southern California ..

There is an edited Summary after the video …

VIDEO BY ALICE

SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO

Hello, Dear Ones, It’s Alice. I Am of the Stars.

I thought I would talk to you for a moment about a few words from the great yogi Patanjali … from the Aphorisms of Patanjali, with commentary by Swami Prabhavananda and Christopher Isherwood …

Citation: “How to Know God: The Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali,” translated with a commentary by Swami Prabhavananda and Christopher Isherwood, copyright 1953, 1981 by The Vedanta Society of Southern California ..

Stories by Alice: Thoughts on Ways to Attain Liberation

  • bhakti yoga, the yoga of devotion … playing kirtan, feeling one’s heart
  • jnana yoga … attainment of knowledge or wisdom. Perhaps Theosophy and the writings of Arthur E. Powell fall into this category?
  • concentration on an object
  • concentration on nothingness, or ‘no object’ (the path of advaita)
  • chanting God’s name: Hara Hara Hara Hara Hara Hara Haree … a chant for abundance

it had to do with the ways to attain liberation. And of course there are many ways to attain liberation. For instance, my favorite way to practice to become more spiritual is through the yoga of devotion, bhakti yoga.

I was just at the Shaktifest in Joshua Tree, California, this last weekend; and that is what the people there were doing, with an emphasis on devotion to Divine Mother and the Sacred Feminine.

Then later in the year they have Bhaktifest; that is a festival of devotion to God; it has both male and female energies of devotion. It is a little bit more masculine, I feel, than Shaktifest. So that is one thing.

You can play kirtan, or sacred music … that is a way of devotion. You can feel your heart; that is what I have been doing since the year 2000. You can take the path of jnana yoga

I am out in the desert, in Joshua Tree, and there is a raven soaring by on the updrafts from the warm airs of evening. A big confrontation between two ravens ended not too long ago. It was very talkative, very loud, and it ended with a standoff. [Looks up.] Here is a raven just enjoying the beautiful breezes of sunset.

So jnana yoga has to do with knowledge. Some people pursue that path. In fact, I would be inclined to say that the School of Theosophy and the writings of Arthur Powell have more to do with jnana and the attainment of wisdom. (I might be wrong about that.)

Some people say that this is one of the hardest paths of yoga. But I think, for people that are suited to it, it is perfect, really perfect. There may not be too many people like that, but for those people, it is really great.

I like jnana yoga also. I am one of those unusual people that like a number of different ways of attempting to attain God consciousness, or liberation. Actually, I am interested in almost all the paths.

Then there is concentration …he art of concentrating … The yogis use this word in a particular way. They are concentrating on a particular object, say, and just watching it until they attain oneness with it.

And then another way to do it is by concentrating on nothingness … no object.

It is a rather arcane science that you can learn, step by step, by reading that book.

One of the ways that I like to seek liberation is by chanting God’s name. Years ago, I did that all the time. For about ten years, I chanted God’s name. I was using a mantra that had to do with abundance. It was of the sacred names of God from India, from the Hindu tradition. And it went like this …

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“Meditation for Abundance of Wealth or Love”
Chanted (But Not Created) by Alice B. Clagett
Soundtrack and Words
16 May 2016

 

Hara, hara, hara, hara, hara, hara, haree 

You use your navel point energy, and in the world it creates something for you … what you want: Abundance, or love, or whatever it is. I will do it again. I am pushing my navel point in, on most of the syllables. It goes like this …

Hara, hara, hara, hara, hara, hara, haree  (x2)

I learned this chant from Yogi Bhajan of Healthy, Happy, Holy Organization (3HO) https://www.3ho.org/ many years ago. As to whether he has copyrighted it, or whether it was an ancient chant, I have not been able to determine.

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And so I would do that. Just in my own consciousness, I would ‘churn the ethers’, as they say, with that all day long … every time I could think of it; especially during drive time, if it was local and not on the freeways, when I was standing in line, and whenever I was not doing a work that involved the logical mind.

I like that way … using a mantra … too. I do not know whether that is in Patanjali, though.

The Trouble with the Yogic Superpowers

  • Patanjali offers ways to attain over 100 yogic superpowers.
  • In the fine print, we learn that, if we attain the yogic superpowers and then don’t go on to total alignment with God consciousness, then some really gruesome things will happen to us.
  • Once a person gets yogic superpowers, he must figure out how to give them back to God somehow.
  • The theory I learned (not from Patanjali, though) is that the yogic superpowers are just paving stones on the way to God consciousness, God awareness, Awakening … what we’re doing now.
  • So we have to know the warning signs of having the yogic superpowers, and then we have to humbly offer them in service to God. That’s the important thing.

There was a list, in “The Yogic Aphorisms of Patanjali,” of the ways to attain the ‘superpowers’ … the yogic powers. The interesting thing was, it gave the list, and then it gave the list, it gave over 100 superpowers, and then you learned that if you attained the superpowers and then did not go on to total devotion to God or to alignment with God consciousness, then some very gruesome things would happen to you.

So I always thought, after that, I was glad I read that book very carefully, because then I did not go after those superpowers, which are a bit of a bother; they create more trouble than they are worth. And once you get them, you have to figure out how to give them back to God somehow.

Anyway, with regard to the list of superpowers, this is the theory that I learned (but not from Patanjali): I learned that the superpowers are just something like paving stones on the way to liberation or God consciousness, God Awareness, Awakening … what we are doing now. We have to know the warning signs of having the superpowers, and then we have to humbly offer them in service to God. That is the important thing.

On Using Drugs to Attain Yogic Superpowers

  • drugs as a way to develop yogic superpowers,
  • hallucinogens used in ancient rituals
  • drugs contraindicated for the person training to be a spiritual adept
  • drugs is that they offer yogic superpowers before a person is spiritually developed enough to deal with them
  • one good example: psychic murder
  • thuggee cult in Ancient India
  • walk-in lore
  • kama rupa lore
  • fate of disincarnate thuggees since 2012

I think that, in India, where Patanjali lived, there were a lot of people who were interested in developing the superpowers a long time ago … long, long ago. And still today, that is the case. And so this list of ways of developing the superpowers is pretty important.

The very first thing on the list is drugs … I am assuming maybe hallucinogenics, or whatever; I am not sure what. But what I have heard about hallucinogenics is that they were used in many ancient cultures, to open the doorway to the astral realm, for instance.

And when an initiate was properly prepared, with fasting and ritual and so forth, with the support of his or her community, then they were fairly successful, I feel, as a way of ushering in rites of passage … say, for manhood, or womanhood, or whatever it should be.

But for the person that is training to be a spiritual adept, the use of drugs is, in my opinion, not indicated. Sometimes people use a drug, unknowingly, in their youth, and learn about this kind of spiritual attainment where a person becomes one with God, or a mystic. And then they go on to lifelong study of spiritual things. In that case it is not such a bad thing … to have tried something that led to something really good.

My path was otherwise: When I was born, I already had a feeling of being a mystic. And by the time I was five years of age, I was very strongly into that understanding that God is One with me, and that the natural world is merely a manifestation of God’s loving care.

What I feel, very strongly, is that drugs are not the way to step out there, into the realm of seeking liberation. The problem of drugs is that they offer these superpowers before a person is spiritually developed enough to know how to deal with them.

What will happen then, is that mistakes can be made. For instance, a person may use their superpowers out of sensory attraction … out of the desire for money, or the desire for lots of women (or the desire for lots of men). I think those are the main attractions: The desire to accumulate lots of goods, and the desire to have lots of sexual liaisons. I might have missed a few … Oh! … the desire for great power: A person could use the yogic techniques because they want power over lots of people. [laughs]

So then what happens is, people do the drugs; they get the superpowers, and then they have these temptations that lead them into the realm of massive karmic problems. And so then it takes lifetimes to get out of that again.

One good example is the use of drugs to attain superpowers that allow a person to kill other people and go undetected. In ancient India, there was a group called the thuggees. In India, everyone is respected, no matter what their occupation; so these were considered great spiritual adepts and the strongest among them was given the name of ‘guru’.

In our culture we would call them gangsters or brigands or roaming gangs of thieves that would mercilessly prey upon travelers and throw them down wells, and all kinds gruesome things described in “Wikipedia.”

They were treated with respect, and they had attained these superpowers. Apparently, piecing it together, what happened was that they would practice to walk into other physical forms, from the astral form. Then when they died, they passed on, into their astral form. Then they would try to seize upon the drugged body a person that was young and healthy, and displace the Soul and consciousness and Awareness there, and step into that body …. It is called a ‘walk-in‘ … and take over that body from that other person … steal the body.

The story goes, that this was successful. I consider that it was probably not successful; it is just a story … because the astral body of such a person, who had spent their whole life murdering and thieving … would most likely be what they call a kama rupa. Kama rupa is the body of a depraved human being who has lost the conscience that characterizes the nobility of humankind. What I have heard, from the texts of the School of Theosophy is that the kama rupa is like a very tough, gangster desire elemental that can survive for a very long time on the astral plane.

Typically, when we pass on, the best thing is for the desire elemental to detach and go away and slowly disintegrate, I hear. But in the case of the kama rupa, what survives on the astral plane is the base animal instincts and the feral passions of what was once a very gnarly human being.

In my opinion, what they call ‘walk-ins’ in the psychic lore are really the walking in of the kama rupa of these ‘depraved’ individuals … as the description goes, in the texts of the School of Theosophy. It is a pretty cool text: ‘depraved’ … depraved individuals who have lost their Souls through their actions in the world.

And the kama rupa is what steps into, and displaces, the Soul of the person who is ‘walked into’. So, what the followers of such a ‘walked into’ person might worship … if it is a spiritual leader who has been ‘walked into’ … because it sound a lot like their leader, who passed on (or maybe a living spiritual leader) … is really just the worst qualities … the most animal qualities of a thuggee … a person who walked sideways of the law for their entire life, and disregarded all the conventions regarding kindness and convention, and legal niceties such as ‘do not kill’ … ‘honor your father and your mother’. All that stuff goes by the wayside.

By the time they get to the ‘thuggee cult’ stage, after many, many incarnations, people are pretty much ready to give up the Soul altogether. I doubt that happens with many people; but it could happen. And it could also happen that we would reincarnate in the normal manner, in a very difficult situation with a lot of polarity in it, and then attempt to resolve that in a new incarnation.

What has been happening recently, is that these thuggee cult individuals, as they are ready to come back into incarnation on Earth, are not finding the suitable Light Quotient for them to be able to come back; and that is because their Light Quotient is not so bright, and everybody on Earth is brightening up quite a bit.

So they are roiling around, and turmoiling around, and gangstering around, on the astral plane, here and there, whenever they can … whenever a person manifests some kind of yearning for a physical experience that is similar to their own inclinations. On these they descend in furious hunger, though only on the astral plane, and only for a moment. In such moments, 

So it is kind of dangerous, right now, to go out on the astral plane, especially when you are sensing emotions of hatred or anger or extreme fear … because they will be waiting for you, you know? Even now, they are playing about … [zooms up above head] … up above the head, up there. In the eighth to the tenth chakra, they are zinging about, attempting mischief, attempting to produce people’s astral plays, and just generally causing havoc in the eighth to tenth dimensions.

I do not know how they get an ‘assist’ up there that high … because, in my opinion, their dimensionality is not that good. Maybe it is the superpowers that they have gained, that allow them to do that. It is a big bother. It is what is clearing from the world right now: That energy up through there … [zooms up above head] … in the pranic column above the head.

It is kind of cool too: We are the explorers, and we are finding out all about all of this.

Optimizing Timelines to Avoid Using Yogic Superpowers for Worldly Gain

  • Timeline optimization may help, if temporarily sidetracked by using drugs: Spirit to Team! Optimize Timelines! For the All, through Free Will!

The thing about drugs is, they can give you superpowers, but they can throw you into that category called the ‘thuggee cult’ category. And then there is karma to pay … payback. [signs]

Maybe if you optimize your timelines …

Spirit to Team!
Optimize My Timelines!
For the All, through Free Will!

Try that, if you feel you have gone sideways for a little bit, and you want to come back straight and steady on the spiritual path. Or if you just took a left turn to look at the view [laughs] and you want to go on, that might get you there right away. So there is that.

For the Skeptic: A ‘What-If’ Exercise

  • What if this is the time of the All? If so, we might think about how things might change, and how all beings might benefit, and how there might be plenty for everybody too.

Even if your spiritual path, I feel, is not about drugs at all, but rather about all these other possibilities, like bhakti yoga, jnana yoga, concentration … whatever it is … if you find yourself tempted to put your group, or your person, or your family first … as has been done, for long ages, in the past … the thing to also consider is that this is the time of the All. This is the time when we join in harmony and unity with all beings everywhere, in the upliftment of this Universe.  And so what worked in the past, what served in the past, in the near future will not be working, and will not be serving.

It is just something to think about, as we continue on with what we are doing … to think about how things might change, and how all beings might benefit, and how there might be plenty for everybody, too. Kind of cool!

We could do a ‘what if’: Clearly, things are just the way they are, but what if they should change? Then, how would it be? And what would I do? What would my family, or my group do?

In love, light and joy
This is Alice B. Clagett.
I Am of the Stars … and so are you!

Filmed on 16 May 2016; published on 29 May 2016, revised on 5 April 2023
Previously titled: Thoughts on Ways to Attain Liberation … and … Attaining Liberation: Overcoming the Pitfall of Yogic Superpowers

Photos by Alice

Image: “Joshua Tree 3,” by Alice B. Clagett, 16 May 2016, CC BY-SA 4.0 International, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..

Image: “Joshua Tree 3,” by Alice B. Clagett, 16 May 2016, CC BY-SA 4.0 International, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..  

Image: “Joshua Tree 4,” by Alice B. Clagett, 16 May 2016, CC BY-SA 4.0 International, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..

Image: “Joshua Tree 4,” by Alice B. Clagett, 16 May 2016, CC BY-SA 4.0 International, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..  

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