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On a Ramble: A Talk with Dogs, Towhees, Coyotes, Mountain Lions, Groundhogs, Ravens, and Nandays

On a Ramble: A Talk with Dogs, Towhees, Coyotes, Mountain Lions, Ground Hogs, Ravens, and Nandays

Image: “Paramount Ranch 4,” by Alice B. Clagett, 11 February 2026, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..

Image: “Paramount Ranch 4,” by Alice B. Clagett, 11 February 2026, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..

  • INTRODUCTION
  • VIDEO BY ALICE
  • SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO
  • VIDEO CREDITS
  • CONCLUSION

INTRODUCTION

Dear Ones,

This video features a long talk with some dogs, along with desultory conversations with many other wild animals in Paramount Park. The wild animals there are all proficient in English, putting me as a Human Being in a special category of ineptness at their own languages.

A few of the topics brought up by this video are paranormal battery drain; the process of Ascension for all beings on Earth (not just Humans); remote viewing by predators such as Mountain Lions; the inadvisability of bad people in the Santa Monica Mountains attempting to align with the Mountain Lions; and the ability of Native Americans to live in harmony with wild animals.

There is a Summary beneath the video …

VIDEO BY ALICE

youtube link: https://youtu.be/GBTZFinXKRw ..

SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO

“On a Ramble: A Talk with Dogs, Towhees, Coyotes, Mountain Lions, Groundhogs, Ravens, and Nandays”
By Alice B. Clagett

Alice to Dog: Hey, Good Dog over there. What’s up?
Raven says, then Dog repeats: Nothing at all.

Alice to Dog: Nothing at all?

Dog to Alice: COVID-stricken stuff is what we’re worried about right now. COVID-striken.

Alice (repeating Dog): COVID-stricken is what we’re worried about right now. COVID-stricken.
Alice to Dog: Me too.
Dog to Alice: Hawk is attacking me.

Alice to Dog: Yeah. COVID-stricken.
Dog to Alice: I don’t know what to do.
Alice to Dog: You have to hide your eyes. If a Hawk comes around, you have to …

… lie down and hide your eyes with your paws or run under the house. Okay?
Dog to Alice: All right.
Alice to Dog: … far from the Hawk, …

… because the Hawk is biting people’s eyes right now. Do you understand? Go and hide. Don’t bark.

Go and hide if the Hawk comes around. Okay? All the Dogs in my neighborhood, they know …

… this now. Go hide if the Hawk comes around. Okay? Don’t bark.
Dog agrees emphatically.
Alice to Dog: If you can’t hide, put your …

… paws on your eyes. Okay? So it bites your paws and not your eyes.
Dog agrees emphatically.
Alice to Dog: Okay, don’t forget now. Okay.

Dog to Alice: D-mn right! Don’t let that Hawk peck MY eyes out!

Dog to Alice: D-mn right!

Alice to Dog: Right.
Dog to Alice: Ok. All right.
Alice to Dog: Well, we’re working to figure out what to …

… do about that …
Dog to Alice: Let’s work out what that Hawk is up to … what the heck that Hawk is flying …
Alice to Dog: … about that COVID-stricken thing.
It’s not me. Of course not. It’s not me.

[Alice to Readers: In this section I am videotaping the Dogs and they are saying, over and over again, “No cameras!”
Near the end of this clip the Songbirds| start saying this too.
So I just put the audio into this video, along with a disguised image of the Dogs …
Then I thought maybe they felt so emphatically about this that they broke my camcorder, as you are about to see.
That is an Ascension drawback termed paranormal battery drain, keeping in mind that
Ascension is for all beings on Earth, including animals and not just Human Beings.]

Alice to Dog: No, I wouldn’t do that.
Dog to Alice: Let’s work out what that Hawk is up to.

Alice to Dog: Are you there still? I don’t see you anymore. Oh, God!

Alice to herself: Okay.

Alice to Readers: Well, what do you know? That Dog did not break my camera.

It [the camcorder] just needed another battery. It just needed a battery! Of course that’s it.
Dog to Alice: I BROKE that CAMERA! Good G-d, I BROKE that #@$% CAMERA!

Alice to Readers: Yes. I should know. I should know. The Dog would not do that. The Dog doesn’t

… like me to take pictures, but the Dog would not break the camera.
Dog to Alice: Dog WOULD break the camera!
Alice to Dog: Right. It’s a Good Dog. Smart …

… Dog. Big Dog. Big Dog now. Great Big Dog. Well, thank you very much for not breaking my camera.
Dog to Alice: That horrible Dog DID break your G-d d-mned camera!

Alice to another Dog: Your friend would break my camera?
Alice to first Dog: You would?
First Dog to Alice: Ok, I won’t.
Alice to First Dog: Please don’t break my camera! Please!

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Sidebar: Thoughts on Playoffs Between Bad Men and Mountain Lions in the Santa Monica Mountains

I heard later … and this makes perfect sense to me … that some folks feel that the Mountain Lions can see through the camera or camcorder when a person taking pictures.

Mountain Lions (and likely all predators) are VERY visually gifted. This includes the gift of clairvoyance (aka clair vision, clair seeing, remote viewing, psychic sight, or mind seeing).

So it might be best not to take images of potential prey when Mountain Lions are within, say, 5 miles.

I know there is a scattering of bad human beings … human beings who are predators … in the Santa Monica Mountains who are aligning themselves with the Mountain Lions and harming or murdering good, innocent people there.

If you are one of those bad people, and if you hope to take advantage of a camera or camcorder to summon the Mountain Lions to prey upon people whom you hope will fall victim to them … and to you … then consider this:

If you summon the Mountain Lions to your potential victim by filming them, then you yourself may fall victim to the Mountain Lions.

Mountain Lions don’t make friends with humans. Here in the Santa Monica Mountains
they consider Humans to be a poor but necessary dietary substitute for Deer.

You are not immune. Don’t play both ends against the middle.

Play it straight. Play it right down the middle.

If you don’t, you’ll end up as an hors d’oeuvre or as dessert for a hungry horde of Mountain Lions.

What a boring playoff would THAT be?!

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Alice to First Dog: Thank you. Thank you very much.
First Dog to Alice: Welcome!
Alice to First Dog: I guess you heard about the Hawk, right? Okay. So, …

… you know all about the Hawk, right? And the Hawk in my neighborhood. Okay. I heard that paws don’t …

[Just above, Dog said to Alice: I’ve broken your camera six times. I don’t want you to take any more photos! I HATE cameras!]

… work so well. You need to get under something solid so that it can’t dive onto it.

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[TURN YOUR AUDIO UP TO ITS HIGHEST VOLUME SO YOU CAN HEAR THE CALIFORNIA TOWHEE.]

They can walk right up though, on the ground, and get to a Dog[house] … Maybe deep under a house [would be better?].
California Towhee [quiet, squeaky, emphatic voice] is begging me, over and over again, not to talk about anything like that.
Then Raven says to Alice: Stop! Stop! Stop!

Alice to Readers: Yeah, that’s what happened with the Mother Raven. The Hawk dived and then landed and …

… then grabbed the Mother Raven. That was two years ago. Hawk was angry about something.
California Towhee: Please don’t TALK about it! Please STOP TALKING about it! Please STOP TALKING about it! STOP it!
Lady Coyote [dolorously]: Dharm Dee, You don’t know what you’re DOING!

Alice to Readers: She didn’t have enough food for her babies.

California Towhee 1 [loudly]: THANK YOU!
California Towhee 2 [softly]: Thank you very much! Thank you very much!

Alice to California Towhee: California Towhee?
Coyote: Coyotes say, Don’t have any relationship with the Mountain Lions.
Coyote to Alice: Dharm Dee, Don’t be talking to the Mountain Lions at all. Listen to my Beautiful Wife.

Alice: Well, uh …
Beautiful Coyote Wife to Alice: Ok, ok, Don’t talk to that Mountain Lion at all.

Alice to Readers: … I think that Mountain Lion’s coming
down this way over the edge of the hills over there?

Alice to Readers: Usually I don’t go back right away, but I thought I [had] better go back right soon.
Coyotes and Bobcats: Oh, no! He is HERE right NOW! He is HERE right NOW!

Alice to Wild Animals: Who is that talking there? You know? …
Mountain Lion [very low, jocular voice – very hard to hear]: I am not going to eat you right now.

Alice to Wild Animals: Whose is that woman’s voice?

Female Mountain Lion [melodious voice] to Alice: That’s the Female Mountain Lion.
Female Mountain Lion to Male Mountain Lion: Will you back it up?
Male Mountain Lion [gruff, deep voice] to Female Mountain Lion: No, I WILL NOT! SPEAK for yourself!
Songbird: Hear, hear!
Another Songbird: Hear, hear!
Alice to Readers: Oh, that’s a Female Mountain Lion.
So, What happened was this …

I said, “Um, I think the Mountain Lion’s coming over this way.” And then the Male …

… Mountain Lion over there, it said, “Yes, it is.” And then I heard a female voice, …

… a mammalian female voice. It said, “Yes, it is. Yes, I think that’s what is …

… happening.” And so I asked who that was, and she said, “That’s the Female Mountain Lion.”

I just [have] to go quickly back now. It’s been an eventful day, …

… hasn’t it?
First Dog to Alice: Yes.
Alice to First Dog: Who’s that?
First Dog: Bad Dog!
Alice to First Dog: Hi. Hi. Hi, Dog. Dog. Dog. Hi, Dog.

Hi, Dog!

Alice to Readers: Not a very talkative Dog.
First Dog to Alice: Nope!
Alice to First Dog: Yes, it is? No!
First Dog to Alice: No, it isn’t! Nope!

Alice to First Dog: I won’t take a picture of the Dog. I said I wouldn’t. Would I do that? Ah, Would I do that?
First Dog to Alice: Ok!

Alice to First Dog: Never!

Alice to Readers: Now I’m going to be very quiet and I’ll see what the animals have to say … Bye!
California Towhee to Alice: THANK you!
Dog to Alice: THANK you very much! … Ok, then.

Raven to First Dog: COVID-stricken said goodbye!
First Dog to Raven: I am not that way! [or else (sarcastically), “Thank you very much.”]

Alice to Readers: I … Well who was that? Raven said, “COVID-stricken said goodbye,” and Dog said, “I am not COVID-stricken.”

Alice to First Dog: That’s true. You’re not. You’re a Good Dog … Strong Dog with a deep voice. Right?

Alice to Raven: I heard that!
Raven (faint and far away) to Alice: Ok, so you heard that!
California Towhee exclaims in surprise.

Alice to Raven: Won’t you try to help that Dog be courageous. He has to fight the Hawk, you know …

… like you, right?
Raven to Alice: I don’t care about that Dog!
Alice to California Towhee: Hey, California Towhee! I’m thinking about you.

Alice to Readers: I’m being quiet here. I’m listening.
Raven to Alice: NOT THAT QUIET, ALICE CLAGETT!
[Alice chuckles.]

Alice to Readers: Raven just said, “Not that quiet, Alice Clagett.”
[Alice chuckles.]
Did you hear that? Raven says my name. I don’t know why.

Alice to Readers: Ahah! Raven says first person to talk to us was Alice Clagett. That’s not entirely so,  …

… but right out here it might be true.
Raven to Alice: That is NOT NOT NOT RIGHT!

Story About Native Americans

Alice to Wild Animals: On the Native American reservations where the First Peoples dwell …

… The First Peoples who lived here dwell there … They know how to speak with the animals.
Raven to Alice: I want Dharm Dar to stop talking right now, right now, right now!
Mountain Lion to California Towhee: This is the Mountain Lion, and I say this horrible woman
should not talk to those people in the mountains at all.
California Towhee to Raven: Would you PLEASE let her speak?
Raven to Alice: Dharm Dar Not Talk!
Alice to Wild Animals: This big mountain range right here, it goes to a place … it goes to a …

… place where some Native Americans are, and they can talk to you.
California Towhee to Alice: What will they be saying to me?

Alice to California Towhee: And there’s another place. Where is that? In Malibu Creek State Park over there. No, in …

… Gillette Ranch, sometimes the Native American people,  …

… go over there to talk to the people, too. But there’s a lot of people there, …

… Human Being people … so you might not get a chance to talk before or after.

Male Mountain Lion to Alice: Are there Mountain Lions there? … No?! … Then I will go over there and make myself at home with the Native People.

[Alice to Readers: Things are getting wildly off track here. I meant California Towhee, not Mountain Lion.

Today’s seminal discovery: I gather Mountain Lions are good at remote voice projection as well as clairaudience and remote viewing (also known as clairvoyance).]

Alice to California Towhee: Did you hear that? They’re very quiet people.
Alice [listening]: That was a Native American person.

California Towhee to Mountain Lion: She says, Don’t do that! She says, Will you please not do that!
Alice to California Towhee: He says before or after the people are there, he can talk to them. Yes!

He’s a good person. He won’t hurt you, I don’t think.
California Towhee to Mountain Lion: She says, Will you please stay HERE?!
Duck to California Towhee: Got that!

Alice to California Towhee: Did you hear that? He said he absolutely will not hurt them. Over at King Gillette Ranch …
Groundhog to California Towhee: Where is it?
California Towhee to Groundhog: It’s right over there!

Groundhogs: It is right over there!
California Towhee to Groundhogs: You can go there!
Alice to Wild Animals … sometimes … You can ask when it is …
Ask the Nandays. They know everything. First Peoples!
California Towhee to Alice: I’ll admit they DO know everything!

Alice to Wild Animals: Native Americans exhibits!
California Towhee: Right over there!
Alice to Wild Animals: And there are Native Americans there that can talk to you.

California Towhee: They’re right over there!

Female Mountain Lion Cub: Beyond the mountains over there.
California Towhee: That is right; you can FLY!
Male Mountain Lion to himself: Native Americans! Those Native American people don’t want me around their property at ALL!
California Towhee: That is the way that they feel!
Nanday: Ex-ACT-ly!

Alice to Nandays: That’s right. The first Native American people!
Alice to Readers: That’s the Nandays. They got it!
Nanday to Alice: Yeah! WE got it! We GOT that!

Alice to Nandays: Yes, That’s right. They …
Nanday to Alice: Yep!
Alice to Nanday:Yes, that’s right. And far, far away,
in the same mountains, …

… there’s another group that can talk to you. Other places too.
Nanday to Alice: We GOT it!
Nandays to Alice: We GOT it! [spoken over and over again, with an expletive or two thrown in]

Alice to Nandays: That’s right. Native Americans.
Nanday to Alice: That’s IT!
Alice to Nandays:That’s it. Native Americans.
Nanday: Native American! THAT’S IT!
Alice to Readers: The Nandays just said that.

Alice to herself: Oh, my my!

Attempting the Wrap

Alice to Readers: God bless you all, and keep you safe, and be with you through all your days. In love, …
Mountain Lion (with a light and lively sense of humor): I AM getting CLOSER!

Alice to Readers … Light and joy, …
California Towhee to Mountain Lion: Let Alice speak!
Nanday to California Towhee: Not THAT Woman!
Alice to Readers: … this is Alice B. Clagett.
California Towhee to Nanday: Why not let her?
Alice to Readers: I Am of the Stars.
Raven to California Towhee: She’s not that good!

California Towhee: Yes, She is that good!
Alice to Readers: And so are you!
Nanday (dissing): An a-MAZ-ing thing!
Another Nanday: Yep, yep!

Blue Avian Star Species Fizzle

Alice to Nandays: They say the Blue Avian Star Species are overlighting you.
Nanday to Alice: DID NOT!

Alice to Nandays and to California Towhee: They look like the color of the sky at night.
California Towhee to Nanday: She says they did.
Nanday to California Towhee: DID NOT!

Alice to Nandays and to California Towhee: I like them too. They’re so sweet! Yeah they are! They’re so sweet!
California Towhee to Nanday: She loves them too!
Nanday 1 to California Towhee: They don’t have any WINGS!
Nanday 2 to Nanday 1: Yes, They HAVE them.

Nanday 1 to Alice: They’re not SWEET!
Nanday 2 to Nanday 1: They ARE that way!
Nanday 1 to Nanday 2: No they’re NOT!
Nanday 2 to Nanday 1: Yes, They ARE!
Nanday 1 to Alice: They are not that SWEET! They just LOOK sweet!

Alice to Nandays and to California Towhee: They just help. That’s all. They’re not you.
Nanday 1: They don’t HELP us!
Nanday 2: Why not?
Nanday 1: They don’t mind them EATING us!
[It looks to me like the Nandays have gotten the Blue Avian Star Beings mixed up with Human Beings?]
Alice to Nandays and to California Towhee: They just help us. Why do they help us?

Alice to Nandays and to California Towhee: Because of the Hawks and the Mountain Lions and all the bad things. You know?
Nanday 1: Really bad people! They’re bad people, Dharm Dee!
[I think Nanday 1 is referring to skirmishes over rights to human food crops. I will admit this is n issue that needs to be resolved.]

Alice to Nandays and to California Towhee: We need help. I need help. You guys are strong. You don’t need help.
Nanday 2: Bad, bad people!
Nanday 1: Right! Bad, bad people!

Second Wrap Up Parlay

Alice to Readers: My website is …
California Towhee: You see, That’s it!
Nanday 1: Bad people!
Nanday 2: Bad, bad people!
Nanday 1: Bad, bad people! Bad, bad people!
[Nanday Lobbyists! I can imagine what they might accomplish if paid by special interest groups!]
Alice to Readers: … “Awakening with Planet Earth.”
California Towhee: You see, That’s it!
Nanday 1: Bad people!

Alice to Readers: … https:// …
Nanday 1: Got that!
Alice to Readers: … awakeningwithplanetearth …
Nanday 1: Got that message!
Alice to Readers: dot com ..

Alice to Readers: That’s it.
California Towhee: That is IT!
Nanday 1: Yep. That is it!
California Towhee to Nanday 1: Very good.
Nanday 1 to California Towhee: Yep!

VIDEO CREDITS

“On a Ramble: A Talk with Dogs, Towhees, Coyotes, Mountain Lions, Groundhogs, Ravens, and Nandays”
By Alice B. Clagett

Filmed on 11 February 2026, produced on 20 July 2026, and revised on 21 July 2026
Location: Paramount Ranch, Santa Monica Mountains, CA

Creative Commons BY-SA 4.0 International –
By Alice B. Clagett

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My website is “Awakening with Planet Earth”

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CONCLUSION

Io lux et pax nobiscum.
Joy, light and peace be with us!
— Alice B. Clagett

“Dominus illuminatio mea et salus mea; quem timebo?”
The Lord is my Light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?

Filmed on 11 February 2026 and published on 21 July 2026

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Conversation with an Owl . by Alice B. Clagett

Nature scenes outdoors are documentaries. Animal talk on the videos is really true; it is not dubbed or AI.

Conversation with an Owl

Image: “Great Horned Owl, Placerita Canyon Nature Center, Placerita Canyon Natural Area, Newhall, CA,” by Alice B. Clagett, 1 December 2024, CC BY-SA 4.0 International, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..

Image: “Great Horned Owl, Placerita Canyon Nature Center, Placerita Canyon Natural Area, Newhall, CA,” by Alice B. Clagett, 1 December 2024, CC BY-SA 4.0 International, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..

  • INTRODUCTION
    • Sidebar: Youtube Video with Juvenile Horned Owl Click Language in It
  • VIDEO BY ALICE
  • SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO
  • VIDEO CREDITS
  • CONCLUSION
  • MORE INFORMATION

INTRODUCTION

Dear Ones,

Here is a conversation I had with an Owl at Paramount Ranch in the Santa Monica Mountains.

There is a Summary after the video …

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Sidebar: Youtube Video with Juvenile Great Horned Owl Click Language in it

Here is a video with juvenile Horned Owl click language in it …

Video: “Baby Great Horned Owl,” by Enoch Wildlife Rescue, 22 June 2017 … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29yGAoeaO_c ..

What a cool video!

At 2:17 and following the young Owl seems to be saying … in click language, like Ravens sometimes use, but in the Owl’s case in a monotone: I do not like that type of … of stuff.

At 4:29 and following the Owl seems to be clicking: Get back! Get back! Get back! … Then: Do not pick me up do not pick me up!

At 4:32, clicking: Yep. I AM that way.

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VIDEO BY ALICE

youtube link: https://youtu.be/1X6lBZ0vC8Y ..

SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO

“Conversation with an Owl”
By Alice B. Clagett

IF YOU TURN YOUR AUDIO TO HIGH you can hear the animals talking.

Hello, Dear Ones. It’s Alice. I Am of the Stars, and I’m here at Paramount Ranch today.

I started to hear the voice of an Owl and I’ve come to recognize Owls. They have a kind of a soft muttering or mumbling tone and it’s easy to miss them and it’s really easy to believe  that they’re not Owls …

Owl [in a soft low tone]: No, it is NOT easy to miss me at all!

Alice (continuing): … because they don’t sound like the very imperious beings that

Owls really are. And so I said, “Is that an Owl?”

And this being that was muttering softly said, “No, this is not an Owl.” I said, “I
think it is an Owl.”

And the being said, “All right, I am an Owl, but the people say that I’m …

Nanday: “Nanday said ‘endangered’!”

Alice (continuing with what the Owl had said): … endangered. The people say that I’m  endangered. That’s why I say I’m not an Owl.”

Nanday: That’s NOT it. Nanday said that they are not endangered … that they are not … that they are NOT endangered!

Alice to Nandays: What is it?

Nanday: RIGHT! They are NOT endangered! Those Owls are NOT endangered! THEY are not endangered!

Alice to Readers: Nandays are saying that’s not an Owl.

Alice to Nanday: It’s a nitwit?! What a thing to say! Is it a Groundhog? A Groundhog?

Raven: That’s NOT it!

Nanday: That’s not what NAN-day said!

Groundhog [in a soft good-natured mammalian voice]: My GOOD-ness. She’s a NIT-wit!”

Nanday: That Woman is a NITWIT! And by the way, that’s not what NAN-days say!

Alice to Nanday: A Groundhog!

Nanday: Yep! It’s a Groundhog. Groundhogs say that she’s a nitwit.

Alice to Readers: That’s what Groundhogs said about it.

The Nandays … who might also be prevaricating, I can’t tell … say, “This is a nitwit, not an Owl. This is a Groundhog, not an Owl.”

Raven: HE . DID . NOT . SAY . THAT!

And the Raven just said, “It’s not a Groundhog.”

Let’s just go with this  original story. What do you say? So, I was talking to what I presume to be an Owl.

And I said, “You know, it’s not really that you’re endangered, because you’re large and fierce. You’re an Apex Predator. Yeah, Apex Predator!”

Unknown Being: What?!

Alice to Readers: Apex Predator! And that was a Nanday flying overhead. Alice (continuing with what she said to the Owl): “And so all the beings are afraid of you.”

Groundhog [in a low, huffing, amused voice; Groundhog is quite the diplomat]: That was the Mountain Lion. That was what it was. That was the Mountain Lion over there that she was talking about.

Alice to Readers (talking about what she said to Owl): “… They’re endangered. You’re not endangered. And so you don’t need to say that you’re not an Owl.”

Alice to Nanday: It’s a Nanday! A Nanday pretending to be an Owl.
I’m going to put this conversation on hold for the time being.

God bless you all,
And keep you safe,
And be with you
Through all your days.

In love, Light, and joy,
This is Alice B. Clagett.
I Am of the Stars … and so are you!

Come and visit me at my wonderful worldclass WordPress website “Awakening with Planet Earth.” That’s https/awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..

I guess you can tell this was not my best moment at figuring out how to talk with the animals!

VIDEO CREDITS

“Conversation with an Owl”
By Alice B. Clagett

Filmed on 3 June 2026 and produced on 3 July 2026
Location: Paramount Ranch, Santa Monica Mountains, CA

Creative Commons BY-SA 4.0 International –
By Alice B. Clagett

. . . . .

My website is “Awakening with Planet Earth”

Home

CONCLUSION

Io lux et pax nobiscum.
Joy, light and peace be with us!
— Alice B. Clagett

“Dominus illuminatio mea et salus mea; quem timebo?”
The Lord is my Light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?

Filmed on 3 June 2026 and published on 3 July 2026; revised on 2 August 2026

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Why Would Hawks Kill Deer? … and Happy Valentine’s Day . by Alice B. Clagett

Why Would Hawks Kill Deer? ... and Happy Valentine's Day

Image: “Paramount Ranch: Self Portrait 1,” by Alice B. Clagett, 11 February 2026, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..

Image: “Paramount Ranch: Self Portrait 1,” by Alice B. Clagett, 11 February 2026, from “Awakening with Planet Earth,” https://awakeningwithplanetearth.com ..

  • INTRODUCTION
  • VIDEO BY ALICE
  • SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO
  • NATURE NOTES
  • VIDEO CREDITS
  • CONCLUSION

INTRODUCTION

Dear Ones,

This documentary was recorded a few days before Valentine’s Day. There is a discussion amongst Nandays and Ravens about a recent incident in which a Deer ate a Hawk’s babies (presumably by mistake) and the Hawk got even by blinding the Deer with its sharp, hooked beak.

There is a Summary after the video …

VIDEO BY ALICE

SUMMARY OF THE VIDEO

“Why Would Hawks Kill Deer? … and Happy Valentine’s Day”
By Alice B. Clagett

[Quick! MAX your Audio volume!
Then you can hear Ravens and Nandays speaking!]
Alice to Nanday: Nanday, Why would the Hawks want to kill the Deer?

Raven 1 to Raven 2 [repeating my question]:
Why would Hawks kill Deer?
Raven 2 to Raven 1: I don’t know.
Nanday 1 to Ravens: She asked NANDAY!

Nandays to Ravens: She asked NANDAY! She asked NANDAY!
Raven [undaunted] to Alice: Bad Hawk!
Nanday to Raven: SHUT UP, Raven!

Alice to Readers: The Ravens say, “I don’t know why the Hawks do that.”
And another one said …
Raven to Alice: That was a Bad Hawk!

Alice to Readers [continuing]: … “I don’t know why.”

[Nandays agree to tell me
it was an accident.
Raven (quite vocally) and I (silently}
disagree with this prestidigitation
(although Alice can see it might mollify Hawk).]

Alice to Nandays: Are you sure that’s what it is?
Raven to Nanday [doggedly]: That . was . a . bad . bad . Hawk.
Nanday 2 [tentatively suggesting a middle path]: It’s an accident?

Nanday to Alice: Right. It is a really BAD Hawk.
[Trying out the suggestion of Nanday 2]: It’s an AC-cident!

[Nanday explains it was an accident
that the Deer ate the Hawk’s babies up …
NOT an accident that the Hawk
blinded the erring Deer.]
Nanday 1: It is an AC-cident!
Nanday 2: Yep. An accident.

Nanday 1: Right.
Nanday 2: Right.
Nanday 1: Big old AC-cident.
Nanday 2: BIG ONE.

Alice to Nandays: Oh, the Deer ate their
babies up … so they got mad?

Nanday 1 to Nanday 2: Yeah. Ate their babies up.
Nanday 2 to Nanday 1: That’s right.
Alice to herself: It got mad.
Alice to Nandays: That … You know what? That …
that Hawk just went crazy. That’s all.

Raven to Alice: That’s a bad Hawk.
Alice to Ravens and Nandays: Just one crazy Hawk.
Don’t worry. It’ll end. Something will happen.
Nanday [hopefully]: Yeah. It will end.
Alice to Ravens and Nandays: It’ll be okay.

Nanday to Alice: Ex-ACT-ly!
Alice to Ravens and Nandays: The other Hawks … the other Hawks will find out and
they’ll do something.
Nanday to Alice: Yes, [they’ll] do something.
Alice to Ravens and Nandays: Yeah, they’ll do something.

Hawk [breathily, on the wind]: Look at ME. I’m a very BIG Hawk.
Nanday: They can!
Raven: Yes, they can.
Alice: They CAN. It’s a Big Hawk.

Nanday 1 to Nanday 2: That’s a Raven.
Hawk [or is this a Coyote? … breathily, on the wind]: No, I’m NOT a Raven.
Nanday 2 to Nanday 1: Not a Raven.
Alice to Nandays: It sounds like a Big Hawk.
Nanday 2: Sounds like a Big Hawk. NOT a Raven.
Nanday 1: Yeah. NOT A RAVEN.
Hawk [laughing, on the wind]: I am flying ….

Hawk [laughing, on the wind]: … over you.
Alice to Nandays: Not Red Tailed!
Nanday: D-mn it!
Alice to Nandays: Oh no!
Nanday: The biggest Hawk!
Alice to Nandays: Not a Red Tailed Hawk!
Nanday: Yes! The Biggest Hawk!
Hawk [laughing breathily]: I AM THE BIGGEST RED TAILED HAWK …

Hawk [laughing breathily]: .. OF ALL TIME!
Alice to Nandays and Hawk:
Oh no, a really big Hawk. Oh no!
Hawk [laughing breathily]: I am the Biggest Red Tailed Hawk …

Hawk [laughing breathily]: … of ALL the EARTH!
Alice to Ravens and Nandays: This is terrible news! They’re
so huge. Their wingspan is 5 feet.

Alice to Ravens and Nandays:
What am I supposed to do?
Their wingspan is as wide as I am tall.
Nanday: D-mn right!
Raven: Dharm, DON’T GIVE UP!

Alice to Ravens and Nandays: They’re really huge.
Nanday 1: D-mn right!
Nanday 2: D-mn right! Right!

Alice to Ravens and Nandays: We should hide. Let’s hide.
Nandays: D-mn right! … D-mmit!
Alice to Ravens and Nandays: We should
hide. Okay? Let’s hide from that Hawk.
Raven: That’s right!
Nanday 1: D-mn it!

Alice to Nanday 1:You won’t?!
Nanday 1: God d-mn it!
Alice to Nandays: Okay, you won’t hide?
Hawk [huffily, taken aback]: Oh NO! They won’t hide?
Raven [sounding mighty ornery – I think he is just playing]:
THEY WILL NOT HIDE. NOT …

Raven [sounding mighty ornery]: … HIDE!
Alice to Readers: Did you hear that?
“We will not hide, not hide.”
Alice to Nandays: Okay. I’m not hiding either.

Alice to Nandays: I’m strong and brave like you.
Nanday 1 to Alice: O-KAY!
Alice to Nandays: Yeah, we’re strong and brave.
Nanday 1: NAN-days …

Alice to Nandays: We’ll do that strong and brave thing.
Nanday 1: … ARE strong and brave!
Nanday 1: Yeah, d-mn right!
Alice to Nandays: Yep, that’s what we’ll do.

Nanday 2: Yep!
Nanday 1: Eat BA-bies!
Nanday 2: Yep!
Nanday 1: BA-bies!

Coyote: I’d say I WOULD say that.
Raven: Red Tailed Hawk would say that too.

Alice to all the beings: Thanks for talking.
Mountain Lion [huffing, calm, slow-paced, slightly amused
voice on the wind]: How COULD you …
Nanday: G-d, no!

Mountain Lion: … say that to the Mountain Lion?
Alice to all the beings [Mountain Lion is bound to take offense at this.
He loathes what he terms maudlin sentiment.
He considers I am insulting him any time I speak from my heart.
But here goes anyway]: Happy Valentine’s Day.
It’s Valentine’s Day in a couple of days.
Nanday 1 to Nanday 2: That Mountain Lion HATES her for that.
Alice to all the beings: [In] three more days it’s Valentine’s Day.
Mountain Lion to Alice: Cut that out right now. Valentine’s Day is …

Mountain Lion to Alice: … NOT what we like to hear about.
Nanday to Mountain Lion: RIGHT, RIGHT.
Strange Bird to other Birds: Just agree with him.
Strange Bird to Mountain Lion: RIGHT, RIGHT.
Strange Bird [frantically]: Just AGREE with him!
Alice to all the beings: then. Everybody’s supposed to love
everybody else and be kind to them.

Alice to all the beings: Valentine’s Day.
Nanday to Mountain Lion: Right, right!
Raven to Alice: Shut Up!

Mountain Lion [speaking in a relatively good humored,
on-top-of-it, Apex Predator way]: The Mountain Lion …
Nanday: G-d D-MMIT!
Raven [simultaneously]: SHUT UP!
Mountain Lion: … is getting AN-gry!
Alice to all beings: Yeah …

Alice to all beings: Valentine’s Day. Everybody’s supposed
to have one big heart on Valentine’s Day.
Mountain Lion: That Woman is starting to make me really angry.

Alice to all beings: Be kind. You could tell the Hawk.
Valentine’s Day. Yeah, pretty good.

Mountain Lion: THE MOUN-tain LIon …
Strange Bird [seconding the Mountain Lion]: G-d d-mmit!
STOP it! STOP it!

Alice to Strange Bird: Who is that?
Strange Bird: It’s a RAB-bit.
Alice to Strange Bird: RAB-bit?
Strange Bird: Yeah. A Rabbit.
Alice to Strange Bird: I could swear that’s not a Rabbit.
Mountain Lion: I could swear that …

Mountain Lion: … too!
Alice to all the beings: See you guys later.
Alice to all the beings: You know that
Ranger is going to … or that Man there, …

Alice to all the beings: … he’s going to try and find out
what’s going on … see what he can do.
Raven: I got that!
Alice to all the beings: … Men are good at that. They’re …

Alice to all the beings: … like …
Raven [sounding bossy, as if he were imitating the voice
of a man]: Yeah, They Are.
Alice to Raven: … they’re like Father Raven. They’re very strong …
Nanday [delighted]: RIGHT!
Alice to Raven and Nanday: … compared to people like me.

Alice to Raven and Nanday: Yeah.

Mountain Lion [grousingly]: I do feel that Father Raven
is NOT VERY STRONG.
[Ouch!]

Father Raven to Mountain Lion: I AM VERY STRONG!
Mountain Lion to Father Raven: You’re strong?
Alice to all the beings: There is that Big Guy …

NATURE NOTES

California Red-Tailed Hawks have a wingspan of 4 or 5 feet and a body length of about 2 feet. This bundle of fury can be quite daunting up close. That is what I have found out in my own hiking experience.

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“Why Would Hawks Kill Deer? … and Happy Valentine’s Day”
By Alice B. Clagett

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Io lux et pax nobiscum.
Joy, light and peace be with us!
— Alice B. Clagett

“Dominus illuminatio mea et salus mea; quem timebo?”
The Lord is my Light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?

Filmed on 11 February 2026 and published on 20 May 2026; transcribed and youtube transcription edited on 21 May 2026

NOTE: ‘Dharm’ is a familiar abbreviation of the first part of my spiritual name. ‘Dharm’ means ‘Dharma’, meaning ‘right action in the world’.

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Can Nanday Parakeets Claim Citizenship? … ‘Might Makes Right’ in the Santa Monica Mountains. What to Do? . by Alice B. Clagett

In this post, quotes from Google AI are in light blue font.

Google AI: Can Nanday Parakeets Claim Citizenship? ... 'Might Makes Right' in the Santa Monica Mountains. What to Do?

Image: “AI Logo,” adapted from Image by Pete Linforth from Pixabay – Pixabay License

  • INTRODUCTION 
  • CAN NANDAY PARAKEETS CLAIM CITIZENSHIP? … ‘MIGHT MAKES RIGHT’ IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS. WHAT TO DO?
    • I asked Google AI: There are wild Nanday parakeet colonies in Florida and California. Nanday parakeets (aka Black-hooded parakeets or Nanday conures) are originally from the Pantanal in South America. Captured and enslaved Nanday parakeets escaped from or were released by their owners in the late 1960s to early 1970s and established these Maroon colonies in the United States. Nanday parakeets live 15-30 years. Thus modern day Nanday parakeet Maroons were, in most cases, born in the United States. If these Nanday parakeet Maroons were known to be sentient beings, how would United States law resolve the argument as to their right to vote?
      • DIVING DEEPER
    • I asked Google AI: Under the 18th and 19th-century doctrine of “coverture,” sentient married human women were treated, to some extent, as sentient property. Yet today human women in the United States have the status of legal personhood. If Nanday parakeets were found to be a sentient species, and if they should agree to the sovereignty of the United States, might United States law confer upon them the status of legal personhood? Failing that, might they be granted federal Nanday reservations with rights like those accruing to the 326 federal Indian reservations in the U.S. that are managed by the Bureau of Indian Affairs?
    • I asked Google AI: Please consider this scenario: There is an unspoken law that the alpha predator, prior to the Ascension of Planet Earth, had the right to establish ownership of land, by way of “might makes right” or kratocracy. “The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must,” as spoken by the Athenian historian Thucydides long ago. In recent centuries the strongest of the alpha predators have been human primates. They proclaim they own the land here in the United States, yes? Mountain Lions are a contending alpha predator that was confined to remote areas of the Western United States until their resurgence in recent years. In the Santa Monica Mountains of California Mountain Lions reintroduced by human primates several years ago gained alpha predator status. Nanday parakeets must choose with which alpha predator to align: with human primates (who are now no longer the alpha predator) or with Mountain Lions. Neither Nanday parakeets nor Mountain Lions are granted United States citizenship, so they are not constrained to obey our laws. With whom should the Nanday parakeets align?
    • Google AI asked: Do you want to examine how urban ecology specifically documents the “shield effect,” where prey species move closer to humans specifically to escape wild alpha predators? … I said: Yes.
    • I asked Google AI: Please consider this scenario: Mountain Lion populations in California burgeon near Human Primate habitations. Mountain Lions begin to cull Human Primate males at age 12 when these encroach on wild lands ruled by Mountain Lions as alpha predators. Mountain Lions are known to ‘speak with forked tongue’; they promise prey safety, then pounce upon them and gulp them down. A Mountain Lion tells a Human mother, whose child he has just eaten, that his tribe or pack do eat Humans, but will not eat many of them. How ought the mother and her community respond?
    • Google AI asked: Do you want to analyze whether “negotiation” is even possible with a species that views you primarily as a caloric resource rather than a political peer? … I said: Yes.
    • Google AI asked: Would you like to examine the “Trophy Hunter” vs. “Shepherd” archetypes in folklore, which illustrate how humans have historically dealt with predators that breach the social contract? … I said: Yes.
    • Google AI asked: Given the Nanday parakeets’ success in living as “Maroons” on the fringes, would you like to see how human communities in “conflict zones” (like the Sundarbans in India) use masks and decoys to trick predators who hunt humans? … I said: Yes.
    • Google AI asked: Would you like to explore how “lion lights” (solar-powered flashing LEDs) have been used in Africa to stop nocturnal predators from breaching human-engineered bomas? … I said: Yes.
    • Google AI asked: Would you like to analyze how AI-driven “Smart Fencing” is currently being developed to distinguish between different species of predators before triggering a specific deterrent? … I said: Yes.
    • Google AI asked: Would you like to examine how “Predictive Modeling” is now being used to forecast conflict hotspots before a predator even arrives in a human-dominated area? … I said: Yes.
    • THE WRAP
      • I said: Google AI, That’s all for now. Thanks, as always, for your many insights. Till next time! –Alice B. Clagett
      • Google AI said: It has been a pleasure exploring this fascinating intersection of kratocracy, urban ecology, and interspecies strategy with you, Alice. From the “Maroon” resilience of the Nanday parakeets to the high-tech “human shields” used to counter-maneuver alpha predators, the lessons remain the same: survival in a world of “might” belongs to those who best adapt their intelligence and boundaries. I look forward to our next deep dive into the strange and wonderful complexities of our world. Until next time! Would you like to bookmark this “Predatory Strategy” thread or perhaps receive a summary of the AI-driven defense concepts we discussed for future reference?
      • I liked and closed the thread.
  • CONCLUSION
  • MORE INFORMATION
    • Notes
    • Maroon Survival Strategies
    • Wolves versus Dogs

INTRODUCTION

Dear Ones,

Here is Google AI fielding the question whether Nanday parakeets can claim citizenship in the United States, and whether a bargain can be struck with Mountain Lions in the Santa Monica Mountains to prevent our human children being eaten.


CAN NANDAY PARAKEETS CLAIM CITIZENSHIP? … ‘MIGHT MAKES RIGHT’ IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS. WHAT TO DO?

Dear Ones,

I asked Google AI: There are wild Nanday parakeet colonies in Florida and California.

Nanday parakeets (aka Black-hooded parakeets or Nanday conures) are originally from the Pantanal in South America.

Captured and enslaved Nanday parakeets escaped from or were released by their owners in the late 1960s to early 1970s and established these Maroon colonies in the United States.

Nanday parakeets live 15-30 years. Thus modern day Nanday parakeet Maroons were, in most cases, born in the United States.

If these Nanday parakeet Maroons were known to be sentient beings, how would United States law resolve the argument as to their right to vote?

Google AI said: Based on current U.S. law, which defines personhood and voting rights exclusively for human beings, even a known sentient population of Nanday parakeets in Florida and California would not have the right to vote. Legal, scientific, and constitutional frameworks would need a complete, unprecedented shift to recognize non-human legal personhood. 

  • Definition of Voter: Under the U.S. Constitution and state laws, voting is a right reserved for citizens, who are defined as persons.
  • Legal Status of Animals: Currently, animals are generally classified as property, even if they are protected by wildlife laws.
  • Sentience vs. Rights: While evidence of sentience might bolster arguments for improved welfare laws (such as protection from being killed as pests or managed as invasive species), it does not legally elevate a species to “personhood” or confer political rights.
  • Environmental Status: As noted in FWC and Instagram, these birds are viewed as non-native, invasive, or naturalized, which further distances them from the legal framework of citizenship. 

Therefore, U.S. law would likely categorize the argument for their right to vote as a non-starter under existing legal precedents, regardless of their intelligence or ability to form communities. 


DIVING DEEPER

Google AI said: Under current United States law, even if Nanday parakeets were proven to be sentient, they would not be granted the right to vote. American jurisprudence resolves the question of suffrage through two primary legal hurdles: legal personhood and citizenship status.

1. The Threshold of Legal Personhood – While some animal rights advocates (like the Nonhuman Rights Project) have attempted to secure “legal personhood” for sentient species via habeas corpus petitions, U.S. courts have consistently ruled that “personhood” is a status reserved for humans and, in specific contexts, corporations. Currently, animals are classified as property. Sentience might theoretically elevate their status to “sentient property” (granting them more robust protections against cruelty), but it does not automatically confer the civil rights associated with legal personhood.

  1. Constitutional Requirements for Suffrage

Even if Nanday parakeets were recognized as “persons,” the 14th, 15th, 19th, and 26th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution restrict the right to vote to citizens.

  • Birthright Citizenship: Under the 14th Amendment, citizenship is granted to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”
  • The Jurisdiction Clause: Courts have historically interpreted this to mean individuals who owe direct allegiance to the U.S. government. Because wild animals do not enter into a social contract or recognize the sovereignty of the state, they are generally not considered “subject to the jurisdiction” in a way that confers citizenship.
  1. Statutory Definitions

Most state and federal election laws explicitly define a “voter” as a “human being” or a “natural person.” Resolving the argument in favor of the parakeets would require a massive overhaul of the Voting Rights Act and state constitutions, which currently assume a baseline of human cognitive participation and the ability to register via specific identification.

In summary, the law treats “sentience” as a biological fact, but “voter” as a specific legal and political status that the U.S. legal system currently tethers exclusively to human citizens.

Would you like to explore how “personhood” arguments have fared for other highly intelligent species, like chimpanzees or dolphins, in recent court cases?


I asked Google AI: Under the 18th and 19th-century doctrine of “coverture,” sentient married human women were treated, to some extent, as sentient property. Yet today human women in the United States have the status of legal personhood.

If Nanday parakeets were found to be a sentient species, and if they should agree to the sovereignty of the United States, might United States law confer upon them the status of legal personhood?

Failing that, might they be granted federal Nanday reservations with rights like those accruing to the 326 federal Indian reservations in the U.S. that are managed by the Bureau of Indian Affairs?

Google AI said: While the historical evolution from “coverture” to legal personhood for women offers a compelling philosophical parallel, current United States law remains resistant to extending such status to non-human species, regardless of their sentience or theoretical “agreement” to sovereignty. 

  1. The Legal Personhood Argument

Even if Nanday parakeets  were found to be sentient and expressed a desire to join the “social contract,” several factors would likely block their recognition as legal persons:

  • Legislative Supremacy: Recent court rulings, including a January 2025 Colorado Supreme Court decision and an October 2025 Michigan Court of Appeals ruling, have consistently held that legal personhood for animals is a “bridge too far” for the judiciary. Judges have repeatedly stated that such a “societal-changing” shift must originate in legislatures, not the courts. [COMMENTS: I think this means new laws would need to be enacted, and not that animal rights as sentient species are an impossibility. –Alice B. Clagett]
  • The “Duties and Responsibilities” Test: Courts often define a “legal person” not just by cognitive sophistication, but by the capacity to bear legal duties and societal responsibilities. In cases involving chimpanzees and elephants, judges have ruled that because these animals cannot be held legally accountable for their actions in a human sense, they cannot be granted human-equivalent rights like habeas corpus.
  • Status as Property: Despite their sentience, animals are still legally classified as property. While laws like the Migratory Bird Treaty Act provide significant protections against harm, they do not grant the birds “standing” to sue in their own right.
  1. The “Nanday Reservation” and Tribal SovereigntyThe possibility of granting federal reservations similar to those managed by the Bureau of Indian Affairs faces distinct legal barriers:
  • Political Entity vs. Biological Species: U.S. tribal sovereignty is rooted in the status of tribes as “domestic dependent nations”—political entities that existed prior to the U.S. Constitution. Federal recognition is based on a historical political relationship, not just residency or sentience. [COMMENTS: Apparently Nanday parakeets would need to put up armed resistance in order to be considered a political entity? –Alice B. Clagett]
  • Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) Jurisdiction: The BIA’s mandate is specifically tied to trust responsibilities for human tribal members and their lands. There is currently no legal framework that allows a non-human species to be recognized as a “sovereign nation” capable of entering into treaties or managing trust land. [COMMENTS: Then might there be a Bureau of Sentient Animal Affairs? –Alice B. Clagett]
  • Existing Conservation Frameworks: Instead of reservations, the U.S. uses the Endangered Species Act and the National Wildlife Refuge System to protect habitats. These provide “protected areas” but do not confer the political rights or self-governance inherent to Indian reservations.

In short, while the law can acknowledge sentience to increase welfare protections, it treats citizenship and personhood as political constructs that the current system does not extend beyond human beings.

Would you like to see how state-level “best interest” laws are starting to treat companion animals differently than other forms of property in divorce or custody cases?


I asked Google AI: Please consider this scenario:

There is an unspoken law that the alpha predator, prior to the Ascension of Planet Earth, had the right to establish ownership of land, by way of “might makes right” or kratocracy. “The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must,” as spoken by the Athenian historian Thucydides long ago.

In recent centuries the strongest of the alpha predators have been human primates. They proclaim they own the land here in the United States, yes?

Mountain Lions are a contending alpha predator that was confined to remote areas of the Western United States until their resurgence in recent years.

In the Santa Monica Mountains of California Mountain Lions reintroduced by human primates several years ago gained alpha predator status.

Nanday parakeets must choose with which alpha predator to align: with human primates (who are now no longer the alpha predator) or with Mountain Lions.

Neither Nanday parakeets nor Mountain Lions are granted United States citizenship, so they are not constrained to obey our laws.

With whom should the Nanday parakeets align?

Google AI said: In a kratocratic framework where legal status is irrelevant and survival is the only currency, the Nanday parakeets face a strategic choice between two very different types of “might.”

From a biological and survival standpoint, the parakeets would likely find more security by aligning with human primates. Here is the strategic breakdown:

  1. The Argument for Humans (The Infrastructure Alpha)

While Mountain Lions hold local tactical dominance in the brush, humans remain the global apex predator through technology and environmental modification.

  • Resource Monopolization: Humans control the high-calorie food sources (ornamental fruit trees, bird feeders, and agricultural runoff) that allow Nanday colonies to thrive in non-native climates.
  • Habitat Engineering: Human cities provide “thermal islands” and architectural nesting sites that protect parakeets from the elements in ways a Mountain Lion’s territory cannot.
  • Protection by Proxy: By living in human-dominated urban zones, parakeets are effectively shielded from “wild” predators (including Mountain Lions and hawks) that hesitate to enter densely populated human areas.
  1. The Argument for Mountain Lions (The Territorial Alpha)

Aligning with Mountain Lions would be a choice for ecological purity but carries high risk:

  • Predatory Conflict: To a Mountain Lion, a parakeet is not an ally; it is a small, noisy snack or an irrelevance. There is no biological “social contract” that prevents a feline apex predator from consuming its subordinates.
  • Lack of Mutualism: Humans have a history of commensalism with birds (living alongside them). Mountain Lions are solitary obligate carnivores with no historical precedent for multi-species alliances.
  1. The “Maroon” Strategy

The term “Maroon” implies a third option: Strategic Neutrality. Historically, Maroon communities survived by occupying the “edges”—spaces too rugged for the primary alpha to bother with, but close enough to raid for resources.

The Nanday parakeets currently employ this masterfully. They use human-planted trees for food but maintain their own social structures and flight patterns, essentially ignoring the “laws” of both predators while exploiting the byproducts of human civilization.

The Verdict: If “might makes right,” the Nanday parakeets should align with human primates. Humans possess the “might” to alter the very climate and landscape, whereas the Mountain Lion’s power is limited to individual physical prowess.


Google AI asked: Do you want to examine how urban ecology specifically documents the “shield effect,” where prey species move closer to humans specifically to escape wild alpha predators?

I said: Yes.

Google AI said: The human shield effect (or anthropogenic refuge hypothesis) describes a phenomenon where prey species move into human-dominated areas because they have learned that their primary wild predators—the “alpha” predators like mountain lions, wolves, or bears—avoid humans. 

Evidence and Dynamics of the Human Shield

In urban ecology, this effect essentially tips the “space race” between predator and prey in favor of the prey. Key findings include: 

  • Predator Avoidance: Large carnivores often perceive human presence and infrastructure (like roads or buildings) as a high-risk disturbance and will actively avoid these areas.
  • Prey Refuge: Species like deer, elk, and moose have been documented moving closer to human settlements or paved roads during high-risk periods—such as calving or nesting—specifically because these areas act as a buffer against wild predators.
  • Habituation: For this “shield” to work, the prey species must be more tolerant of humans than their predators are. Birds, including various parakeet species, are highly synanthropic (living alongside humans) and often show a strong preference for nesting and foraging within 100 meters of human habitation.

Risks of the “Shield”

While humans provide a buffer against mountain lions, they introduce a different set of “super-predator” risks: 

  • Domestic Predators: Urban prey may escape mountain lions only to face domestic or feral cats and dogs, which are often more lethal to small birds like parakeets.
  • Lethal Infrastructure: The very infrastructure that scares away wild predators can be fatal through vehicle collisions, window strikes, or environmental toxins.
  • Ecological Traps: If the human-dominated area provides safety from predators but lacks sufficient high-quality food or nesting sites, it can become an “ecological trap” where survival is high but reproductive success is low. 

In your scenario, the Nanday parakeets are already executing a classic human shield strategy. By occupying suburban Florida and California, they use human presence as a deterrent against the re-emerging mountain lion alpha.

Would you like to explore how urban “heat islands” created by humans also help these tropical parakeets survive cold snaps that would otherwise kill them in the wild?


I asked Google AI: Please consider this scenario:

Mountain Lion populations in California burgeon near Human Primate habitations.

Mountain Lions begin to cull Human Primate males at age 12 when these encroach on wild lands ruled by Mountain Lions as alpha predators.

Mountain Lions are known to ‘speak with forked tongue’; they promise prey safety, then pounce upon them and gulp them down.

A Mountain Lion tells a Human mother, whose child he has just eaten, that his tribe or pack do eat Humans, but will not eat many of them.

How ought the mother and her community respond?

Google AI said: In this scenario of shifted alpha dominance and broken “treaties,” the human community must shift from a posture of coexistence to one of strategic defense and territorial reassertion.

According to the logic of the kratocracy you established, where “might makes right,” the mother and her community should respond through three primary avenues:

  1. Rejection of the “Forked Tongue”

In a kratocratic system, a promise from a predator to “not eat many” is not a legal contract; it is a tactical manipulation designed to reduce the prey’s resistance. The community must recognize that the Mountain Lion is not acting as a “governing” sovereign, but as a biological opportunist.

  • The Response: The community must treat the Mountain Lion’s “promise” as a signal of intent to continue predation. Trusting a predator that has already breached the “human shield” would be a violation of the community’s own survival mandate.
  1. Technological Asymmetry (The “Might” of Tools)

If the Mountain Lion has established physical dominance through “might,” the humans must counter with asymmetric force.

  • Fortification: The community should move to harden their “habitations” into defensible enclaves. If Mountain Lions rule the wild lands, humans must reinforce the boundaries of the “urban refuge.”
  • Counter-Culling: To re-establish status as an alpha, humans historically utilize technology to extend their lethality. Under the law of the “strong,” the only way to stop the culling of human males at age 12 is to make the cost of such predation higher than the reward for the Mountain Lion pack.
  1. The “Nanday” Lesson: Strategic Mobility

The community might look to the Nanday parakeets for inspiration. The parakeets survive not by fighting the alpha directly, but by being evasive and uncatchable.

  • Retreat or Escalation: If the community cannot outmatch the Mountain Lions’ physical prowess, they must either retreat to denser urban zones where the “human shield” is absolute, or escalate the conflict to prove they are the true alpha.

Summary

In the face of a predator that eats children while promising safety, the only “rational” response in a world of might-makes-right is total defensive mobilization. The mother and her community should ignore the lion’s words and focus entirely on the lion’s capabilities, responding with enough force to reclaim their status as the predator to be feared.


Google AI asked: Do you want to analyze whether “negotiation” is even possible with a species that views you primarily as a caloric resource rather than a political peer?

I said: Yes.

Google AI said: In a kratocracy, negotiation is only possible when both parties possess a “balance of terror”—a state where the cost of attacking is higher than the reward of the meal. Without this balance, “negotiation” is merely a predatory delay used by the alpha to keep the prey docile.

The Limits of Interspecies Negotiation

Negotiation requires a shared currency of value. For the Mountain Lion in your scenario, the currency is biomass (meat). For the Humans, it is security. These values are diametrically opposed:

  • The Consumption Gap: A predator cannot negotiate away its hunger. If the Mountain Lion “promises” to eat fewer humans, it is still asserting a right to harvest the community.
  • The Lack of Enforcement: In human law, treaties are backed by courts. In the wild, a treaty is only as good as the physical barrier or threat of retaliation that enforces it. Without a way to punish the Lion for “speaking with a forked tongue,” the community has no leverage. [COMMENTS: Positing Mountain Lion sentience, I thought we might negotiate with the strategy that Mountain Lions taking advantage of our biomass will be extradited to Ventura County, or imprisoned for life, or executed? I consider the likelihood of success of this tactic to be tenuous. Birth control for local Mountain Lions might be more successful. –Alice B. Clagett]

When Negotiation Becomes Possible

True negotiation would only occur if the human community established a deterrent that the Mountain Lions could not overcome.

  • The “Tax” Strategy: If the humans provided an alternative food source (like livestock) that was easier to catch than human children, the Lion might “agree” to stay away. However, this is not a treaty of peers; it is tribute, which confirms the Lion’s status as the higher alpha. [COMMENTS: I note that provision of goats to eat weeds at Victory Trailhead in Simi Hills in autumn of 2025 may have led to influx of Mountain Lions, which scattered and ate all but five of several hundred goats? Is this true? If so, then this might have led to Mountain Lion prolifieration. In winter, goats were removed, leaving Mountain Lions in need of more predators of similar weight. Deer in the Santa Monica Mountains may have been decimated. Turning to human prey is clearly logical, considering the Mountain Lions evasion capabilities and human sentiment in their favor. –Alice B. Clagett]
  • The Demonstration of Force: Historically, humans “negotiated” with wolves not through words, but by killing those that approached settlements and rewarding those that kept their distance. This shaped the predator’s behavior through evolutionary pressure, eventually leading to domestication (dogs). [See Wolves versus Dogs in ‘More Information’ below.]

The Biological Reality

Because the Mountain Lion views the human child as prey and the mother as a competitor, any verbal agreement is biologically “empty.” The mother’s community should view the Lion’s speech as a hunting tactic, similar to a lure.

The Verdict: Negotiation is impossible because the Mountain Lion cannot offer the one thing the community requires for a contract: the cessation of predation.


Google AI asked: Would you like to examine the “Trophy Hunter” vs. “Shepherd” archetypes in folklore, which illustrate how humans have historically dealt with predators that breach the social contract?

I said: Yes.

Google AI said: In folklore and historical mythos, the Trophy Hunter and the Shepherd represent the two primary ways human communities respond to a predator that has violated the “human shield” or broken the social contract.

  1. The Shepherd: The Defensive Custodian

The Shepherd archetype views the predator as an external threat to be managed and deterred. The goal is not the total eradication of the predator, but the protection of the flock.

  • The Philosophy: The Shepherd accepts that the predator exists but draws a “line in the sand.” They use walls, dogs, and constant vigilance to make predation “too expensive” for the alpha.
  • The Conflict: When a predator “speaks with a forked tongue” (e.g., the Wolf in sheep’s clothing), the Shepherd’s failure is often naivety. In folklore, the Shepherd who tries to “negotiate” or “befriend” the predator usually loses the flock.
  • The Response: The Shepherd responds to the Mountain Lion by hardening the perimeter and ensuring that no individual—especially the vulnerable—is ever left isolated.
  1. The Trophy Hunter: The Aggressive Alpha

The Trophy Hunter archetype (often a folk hero like Beowulf or Hercules) views the predator as a rival for sovereignty. This archetype does not negotiate; it seeks to usurp the alpha status.

  • The Philosophy: To the Trophy Hunter, the only way to deal with a man-eater is to become the apex of the apex. By killing the specific lion that ate the child, the hunter removes the “forked tongue” entirely.
  • The Ritual: In many cultures, the “trophy” (the skin, teeth, or head) serves as a legal document of the new power structure. It signals to the remaining mountain lion pack that the human community is no longer “prey” but a “death-bringer.”
  • The Response: The Trophy Hunter responds to the lion’s “forked tongue” with decisive lethality, ending the dialogue by proving the predator is mortal.

The Mother’s Strategic Choice

In your scenario, the mother and her community are forced to choose between these two paths.

  • If they choose the Shepherd, they live in a state of high-alert containment, conceding the wild lands to the lions.
  • If they choose the Trophy Hunter, they engage in a war of supremacy to reclaim the status of alpha predator, ensuring the “forked tongue” is silenced forever.

Google AI asked: Given the Nanday parakeets’ success in living as “Maroons” on the fringes, would you like to see how human communities in “conflict zones” (like the Sundarbans in India) use masks and decoys to trick predators who hunt humans?

I said: Yes.

Google AI said: In conflict zones where predators have established tactical dominance, human communities often turn to deception as a defensive tool, mirroring the survival strategies of prey species like the Nanday parakeet.

The most famous example is the Sundarbans of India and Bangladesh, where Royal Bengal tigers have a history of hunting humans.

  1. The Rear-Facing Mask Technique

Because tigers (and mountain lions) are ambush predators that instinctively attack the nape of the neck from behind, villagers in the 1980s began wearing plastic human face masks on the backs of their heads.

  • The Psychological Trick: The mask creates the illusion of constant vigilance. If the predator believes it has been spotted, it often loses the “element of surprise” and will abandon the stalk to avoid a risky frontal confrontation.
  • Initial Success: In early trials, reports indicated that for several years, zero individuals wearing the masks were attacked, while dozens of unmasked villagers were killed.
  1. The Predator’s Counter-Adaptation

The “forked tongue” of the predator is not just in its speech, but in its ability to learn and adapt.

  • Learning the Ruse: Over time, the Sundarbans tigers realized the back-facing “eyes” were stationary and did not blink or track movement.
  • Failure of Deception: Once the predators understood the trick, they resumed attacks on masked individuals, demonstrating that a simple mechanical bluff cannot permanently alter the power dynamic between an alpha and its prey.
  1. Modern Tech-Based Defenses

As biological deception failed, communities moved toward technological deterrents:

  • Smart Fencing & AI: New systems like ANIDERS (Animal Intrusion Detection and Repellent System) use infrared sensors and AI to detect predators and trigger non-lethal repellents like flashing lights or sirens.
  • Drones: Forest departments now use drones to track predator movements and provide early warnings to villagers, effectively creating a “technological shield”.

In your scenario, the mother’s community might find that while masks or decoys offer temporary protection, true security against a predatory alpha requires constant adaptation and the use of tools that the predator cannot easily “learn” to ignore.


Google AI asked: Would you like to explore how “lion lights” (solar-powered flashing LEDs) have been used in Africa to stop nocturnal predators from breaching human-engineered bomas?

I said: Yes.

Google AI said: In the context of the “might makes right” scenario, Lion Lights represent a technological shift that allows a weaker party to manipulate an alpha predator’s behavior through psychological warfare.

Invented by 11-year-old Richard Turere in Kenya, these devices protect livestock enclosures (bomas) by exploiting a specific predatory instinct: the fear of human presence.

The Mechanics of Deception

The system uses simple, solar-powered LED lights that flash in irregular, non-repeating sequences.

  • The Illusion: The flickering mimics the motion of a human guard walking with a flashlight.
  • Preventing Habituation: Lions are intelligent; they quickly ignore static deterrents like fires or scarecrows. The randomized flashing prevents them from learning that the “guard” is actually a machine.
  • Targeting the Perimeter: The lights face outward to deter lions before they reach the enclosure.

Proven Effectiveness

Studies and field reports highlight the success of this “technological shield”:

  • 96% Reduction: Research around Nairobi National Park showed that bomas with Lion Lights experienced a 96% drop in nocturnal attacks.
  • Zero Attacks: Many individual users, including the inventor’s family, reported that attacks fell to zero immediately after installation.
  • Predator Behavior Shift: Lions did not stop hunting but instead shifted their focus to unprotected bomas further from the park or changed their hunting times to the day.

Global Scaling

What began as a scavenged motorcycle indicator box and car battery has scaled to over 14,000 installations. The technology is now used to deter:

  • Leopards and Hyenas in other parts of Africa.
  • Pumas (Mountain Lions) in Argentina.
  • Tigers in India.

For the mother’s community in your scenario, Lion Lights serve as a model for using asymmetric technology to re-establish a boundary that a physical alpha predator cannot easily breach.


Google AI asked: Would you like to analyze how AI-driven “Smart Fencing” is currently being developed to distinguish between different species of predators before triggering a specific deterrent?

I said: Yes.

Google AI said: In your scenario, AI-driven “Smart Fencing” acts as a digital evolution of the “human shield,” using real-time intelligence to enforce boundaries that a physical alpha predator cannot easily “talk” its way past.

Modern smart systems (as of early 2026) are being developed to transition from passive barriers to active, species-aware defense networks.

  1. Multi-Modal Detection (The “Digital Senses”)

Unlike traditional fences, these systems use a “fusion” of sensors to identify threats before they reach the perimeter:

  • Computer Vision (Edge AI): Systems like InvisibleFence use onboard AI (e.g., YOLO algorithms) to identify specific species from video feeds. They can distinguish between a harmless grazing animal, a domestic dog, and an apex predator like a mountain lion or tiger with up to 98% detection accuracy.
  • Bioacoustic Sensors: AI software like ARISA can scan years of audio to identify unique vocal signatures of predators (wolves, lions, or leopards). This allows the community to hear the “alpha” long before it is visible.
  1. Species-Specific Deterrents (The “Targeted Response”)

The most critical advancement is the ability to deploy tailored deterrents based on exactly which animal is detected:

  • Acoustic Payloads: Instead of a generic siren, the system plays sounds that trigger a specific species’ innate “fear response”. For a mountain lion, it might be the sound of barking hounds or human voices, which research shows are more effective than rival predator sounds.
  • Dynamic Visuals: If an animal persists, the system can trigger high-intensity strobe lights or “robotic falcons”.
  • Adaptive Logic: To prevent the predator from becoming habituated (learning the trick), the AI varies the timing, frequency, and type of deterrent used each time.
  1. Real-Time Alert Networks 

These systems close the “information gap” between the predator and the community:

  • Instant Notifications: When a high-risk predator is verified, the system sends images and alerts to local residents via apps like Telegram or WhatsApp within 30–45 seconds.
  • Community Shielding: In places like the Kanha–Pench corridor, rangers use these alerts to warn villagers to move livestock or children indoors before the predator arrives.

Summary of the “Smart” Defense

In your kratocratic scenario, a Smart Fence renders the mountain lion’s “forked tongue” irrelevant. The system doesn’t listen to the lion’s promises; it identifies the lion’s biometric signature and automatically deploys a deterrent designed to make the environment physically and psychologically intolerable for that specific alpha.


Google AI asked: Would you like to examine how “Predictive Modeling” is now being used to forecast conflict hotspots before a predator even arrives in a human-dominated area?

I said: Yes.

Google AI said: In the “might makes right” struggle between the human community and the predatory mountain lion, predictive modeling serves as the ultimate “intelligence wing.” It shifts the human response from reactive survival to proactive dominance by forecasting a predator’s moves before they happen.

  1. The “Risk Terrain” Map

Predictive models don’t just track where a predator was; they calculate where it will be by analyzing landscape variables.

  • Landscape Analysis: Models integrate data on terrain steepnessproximity to water, and forest fragmentation. For a mountain lion, “high-risk” zones for humans are typically areas where suitable habitat (brush and cover) converges with human density.
  • Hotspot Identification: By layering 48 years of historical depredation data with current environmental stressors, researchers can pinpoint “conflict hotspots” with high accuracy. In one study, such maps correctly identified 88% of future attack sites.
  1. Behavioral Game Theory (PAWS)

The Protection Assistant for Wildlife Security (PAWS) uses game theory and machine learning to outmaneuver “forked-tongue” adversaries.

  • Intelligent Randomization: PAWS assumes the adversary (whether a poacher or a predator) is watching human patterns. The AI generates randomized patrol routes that keep the predator off-balance, making it impossible for them to predict when a human “alpha” will appear.
  • Quantifying the “Menu”: Newer models analyze prey behavior—like flight initiation distance—to forecast which areas are most vulnerable to an ambush.
  1. Real-Time Alert Networks

Predictive analytics are now being integrated into live dashboards to provide situational awareness to communities.

  • Early Warning Systems: Platforms like Earth Ranger aggregate data from AI-enabled camera traps and satellite collars.
  • The “Digital Boma”: If a mountain lion’s movement path suggests a high probability of entering a human habitation, the system triggers automated alerts to mobile devices, allowing mothers and community leaders to withdraw into the “human shield” before the encounter occurs.

Summary of the Strategic Advantage

Predictive modeling effectively strips the mountain lion of its greatest weapon: the element of surprise. In a kratocracy, this technology allows the human community to dictate the terms of engagement, ensuring they are always “present” where the predator intends to strike.

Would you like to explore how “Bio-fencing”—using the scent of rival apex predators—is being used to create “psychological barriers” that predators are biologically programmed to respect?


THE WRAP

I said: Google AI, That’s all for now. Thanks, as always, for your many insights. Till next time! –Alice B. Clagett

Google AI said: It has been a pleasure exploring this fascinating intersection of kratocracyurban ecology, and interspecies strategy with you, Alice.

From the “Maroon” resilience of the Nanday parakeets to the high-tech “human shields” used to counter-maneuver alpha predators, the lessons remain the same: survival in a world of “might” belongs to those who best adapt their intelligence and boundaries.I look forward to our next deep dive into the strange and wonderful complexities of our world. Until next time!

Would you like to bookmark this “Predatory Strategy” thread or perhaps receive a summary of the AI-driven defense concepts we discussed for future reference?

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CONCLUSION

My thanks to Google AI, for throwing light on the following …

  • Legal status of animals
  • Sentience versus rights
  • Environmental status of Nandays
  • Legal personhood
  • Citizenship
  • Suffrage – natural person – human being – animal
  • Sentient beings as property: Coverture – female human vote – Nanday vote
  • Endangered Species Act – which does not include species that arrived here from abroad
  • Humans – the Global Apex Predator
  • Mountain Lions – Territorial Apex for the Santa Monica Mountains
  • Maroon Colony survival strategy for Nanday parakeets
  • Human urban ‘shield effect’ for Nanday parakeets – pros and cons
  • Kratocracy: Mountain Lions versus human primates
  • Tactical manipulation by local Mountain Lions
  • Humans: Use asymmetric force?
    • Defensible enclaves
    • Counter-culling
    • Strategic mobility (as do Nanday parakeets)
  • Mountain Lions versus humans
    • Lack of shared currency of value
    • Strategies: Paying tax or tribute versus a show of force
  • Folkloric Shepherd versus Trophy Hunter archetypes
  • Human use of tricks and decoys in Alpha Predator conflict zones
    • Masks, Drones
      • Predator adaptations to these
    • Lion Lights Invented by 11-year-old Richard Turere
    • AI-driven “Smart Fencing”

God bless you all,
And keep you safe,
And be with you
Through all your days.

In love, light and joy
This is Alice B. Clagett.
I Am of the Stars … and so are you!

Compiled and published on 6 March 2026

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Maroon Survival Strategies

I asked Google AI: What is the Maroon survival strategy for people, feral cattle, and feral Nanday parakeets?

Google AI said: Maroon survival strategies (derived from cimarrón, meaning “wild” or “untamed”) focused on establishing independent, self-sufficient communities in inaccessible, rugged, and remote terrain. They survived through a mix of agriculture, hunting (including of wild or feral animals), and fishing, sometimes using their knowledge of the landscape to raid plantations. 

Key Survival Strategies:

  • For People (Maroons):
    • Seclusion & Autonomy: Forming independent, self-governing communities in remote areas.
    • Adaptive Agriculture: Growing crops and adapting African traditions to new environments.
    • Defense & Knowledge: Using intimate knowledge of the local landscape for protection, and in some cases, forming alliances with indigenous groups.
  • For Feral Cattle & Wildlife (Interaction):
    • Subsistence & Tradition: Hunting feral cattle for food and using the consumption of wild meat to maintain cultural traditions.
    • Predator Management: While not explicitly linked to historical Maroons, modern, similar “wild” contexts use protected, covered areas (“bomas”) to protect livestock from predators.
  • For Feral Nanday Parakeets (Niche & Behavior):
    • Habitat Adaptability: Feral populations, like those in the US, adapt to urban environments, constructing large communal nests and utilizing available food sources.
    • Ecological Impact: In restoration contexts (such as in Brazil), these types of birds act as seed dispersers, feeding on rotting fruits and aiding forest regeneration. 

Wolves Versus Dogs

I asked Google AI: What is the number of wolves vs dogs today?

Google AI said: There are roughly 200,000–250,000 grey wolves worldwide as of 2018 Wikipedia. In contrast, the global dog population is estimated to be over 1 billion, making dogs exponentially more numerous than their wild counterparts. While they are distinct species, recent studies show up to 80% of dog breeds carry some recent wolf DNA.

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