Written and published on 4 January 2020
- CHARISMATIC CATHOLICISM
- CHARISMA AMONGST PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS
- CATHOLIC ‘CHARISMS’ AND LIGHTWORKER GIFTS
- CAVEATS FOR LIGHTWORKERS REGARDING FITTING IN WITH CHRISTIAN CONGREGATIONS
- On Appropriate Restraint of Incoming Light During Worship
- The Spectre of Excommunication for Catholic Lightworkers
- On Holding Charismatic Gatherings Outside of Regular Church Services
- On the Difficult Question of Egoic Aggrandizement
- On Faking the Gifts of Prophecy, Healing and Speaking in Tongues
- On Lightworkers Being Cast Out by Prevailing Prophets in a Church
In my reading, I recently came across the term ‘Charismatic Catholicism’ and looked it up in Wikipedia. To my amazement I found that there are 120 million Catholics worldwide who are Charismatic Catholics, and that it has been looked upon favorably by the last four popes …
“The charismatic movement is the international trend of historically mainstream Christian congregations adopting beliefs and practices similar to Pentecostalism. Fundamental to the movement is the use of spiritual gifts (charismata). Among mainline Protestants, the movement began around 1960. Among Roman Catholics, it originated around 1967 …
“In the Roman Catholic church, the movement became particularly popular in the Filipino, Korean, and Hispanic communities of the United States, in the Philippines, and in Latin America, mainly Brazil. Travelling priests and lay people associated with the movement often visit parishes and sing what are known as charismatic masses. It is thought to be the second largest distinct sub-movement (some 120 million members) within global Catholicism, along with Traditional Catholicism….” –from Link: “Charismatic Movement,” in Wikipedia … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charismatic_movement#Roman_Catholicism ..
“Perceptions of the Charismatic movement vary within the Catholic Church, although it has been favourably regarded by the last four Popes. Proponents hold the belief that certain charismata (a Greek word for “gifts”) are still bestowed by the Holy Spirit today as they were in Early Christianity as described in the Bible.” –from Link: “Catholic Charismatic Renewal” … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Charismatic_Renewal ..
CHARISMA AMONGST PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS
In addition there are charismatic movements in these Protestant denominations: Anglicanism, Evangelicalism, Lutheranism, Methodism, Calvinism, Adventism, and Eastern Orthodoxy, as well as the Pentecostal Christian movement …
Link: “Pentecostalism,” in Wikipedia … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism ..
CATHOLIC ‘CHARISMS’ AND LIGHTWORKER GIFTS
On behalf of Lightworkers, Ascensioneers, Pathfinders, and Wayshowers, I note the striking congruities between our Lightworker gifts and the Catholic ‘charisms’ …
“Renewal advocates believe that the charisms identified in Saint Paul’s writings, especially in Romans 12:6-8, 1 Corinthians 12-14, and Ephesians 4:11-12, continue to exist and to build up the Church (see Catechism of the Catholic Church, §2003). The nine charismatic gifts considered extraordinary in character include: faith, expression of knowledge and wisdom, miracles, the gift of tongues and their interpretation, prophecy, discernment of spirits and healing.(1 Corinthians 12:8-10) …. These gifts are related to the traditional seven gifts of the Holy Spirit described in Isaiah 11:1-2 (wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord, as listed in Catechism of the Catholic Church, §1831). The nine charismatic gifts in 1 Corinthians 12:8-10 are also related to the spiritual and corporal works of mercy…. Other references to charisms in the Catechism of the Catholic Church include §§688, 768, 799-801, 890, 951, 1508 (charism of healing) and 2035. The belief that spiritual gifts exist in the present age is called Continuationism.” –from Link: “Catholic Charismatic Renewal,” in Wikipedia … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Charismatic_Renewal ..
CAVEATS FOR LIGHTWORKERS REGARDING FITTING IN WITH CHRISTIAN CONGREGATIONS
On Appropriate Restraint of Incoming Light During Worship
I feel it is important for Lightworkers who wish to join a Christian Church that they restrain their charismatic gifts during regular church services, as outpouring of grace through Spirit can be upsetting to those of the congregation not so gifted.
As some of you have perhaps found, pastors and ministers who are holding church services can understandably feel that outpouring of grace during services might interfere with the performance of their sacred office.
For instance, outpouring of grace during the Offertory … the uplifting of bread and wine at the Eucharist … while understandable and nearly unavoidable from the stance of the participating Lightworker … might fill the church with such Light as to cause a pastor or minister to falter in speaking the words of the ritual. Speaking of the words is very important to the perfection of the rite; and so I suggest that attending Lightworkers appeal to their Ascension Teams to flow through only as much grace through Spirit as is best for the ritual at hand. The ritual is, I feel, of great importance in dispensation of grace to humankind.
The Spectre of Excommunication for Catholic Lightworkers
The spectre of excommunication is always a concern for Catholics who are Lightworkers; thus I advise prudence and circumspection when with a congregation and its pastors. If we do our best not to stand out, and are careful not to express dissent of any kind, or to make any prophetic announcements; if we avoid healing anyone in the congregation through the languages of Light and sound; if, in fact, no one knows us other than to discern our devotion to the Mass and its Sacraments, then, I feel, we will be more likely to fit in.
In particular, I advise avoiding engaging in discussions about the currents of charisma and mysticism oft found in Catholic congregations today, as those with whom we speak may have strong feelings either for or against. By not discussing controversial topics we can stay out of the limelight and avoid controversy, I feel. In other words, when with a group of people, I feel it is best to ‘go with the flow’, and not to go on about topics that may create divisiveness or differences of opinion.
Were topics near to our hearts to come up spontaneously during a conversation, and were a question to be put to us personally by perhaps one other person, and not within the hearing of a group of people, then would be the time to respond briefly and to the point, without contradicting anything we know about Christ’s teachings. So I feel.
It seems to me quite unlikely that such a question might be posed, out of thin air, by anyone in a congregation. Thus through circumspection and brevity we may remain unnoticed and reasonably well accepted, and be able to continue to enjoy the rites of the Church and the blessings they rain down upon all humankind.
On Holding Charismatic Gatherings Outside of Regular Church Services
I read about criticism of Charismatic Catholics as follows …
“Critics accuse Charismatic Catholics of misinterpreting, or in some cases violating, Church teachings on worship and liturgy. Traditional Catholics, in particular, argue that charismatic practices shift the focus of worship away from reverent communion with Christ in the Eucharist and towards individual emotions and non-liturgical experiences as a substitute.” –from Link: “Catholic Charismatic Renewal” … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Charismatic_Renewal ..
In the same article I read …
“Catholics who practice charismatic worship usually hold prayer meetings outside of Mass and feature such gifts as prophecy, faith healing, and glossolalia.” –from Link: “Catholic Charismatic Renewal,” in Wikipedia … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Charismatic_Renewal ..
I can see that holding prayer meetings … especially with live spiritual music in which those at the meetings participate … would be a good way to express charismatic gifts without disruption of the traditional church services through ‘grandstanding’ or extra added elements beyond established ritual.
On the Difficult Question of Egoic Aggrandizement
Grandiosement of the ego is a peculiar pitfall for those gifted with charisms, and one that leads to entirely the wrong path in life. At every moment, I feel, one must align with God’s Will, His Heart, and His Mind; that is the only way to purity of Spirit and outflowing of grace.
I myself feel it it best to remain … insofar as possible … unknown to the congregation and to their pastors and ministers in this regard. Better to be unknown than constantly to be harassed and tested by notions of self-aggrandizement. Not being known at all is, I feel, a much more comfortable position in which to experience outpouring of grace, as God wills, and in the moments He chooses.
On Faking the Gifts of Prophecy, Healing and Speaking in Tongues
I note especially, from a day I attended a Pentecostal church service in Durango, Colorado, that members of Pentecostal congregations want to fit in. They want to be Spirit-filled. And sometimes they may pretend to have gifts such as prophecy, healing through laying on of hands, and glossolalia (speaking in tongues) so as to feel welcome in a congregation. I feel this is understandable from a human point of view, and expectable.
It might be helpful for a pastor or minister who has those gifts to let the congregation know they are welcome to attend just as they are … even without the gifts of Spirit … and that Spirit flows through us when it will, and not necessarily, Lord knows, at a time convenient to us.
On Lightworkers Being Cast Out by Prevailing Prophets in a Church
I feel we Lightworkers must assess the issue of one-upmanship and jealousy by prevailing prophets in a church. If we arrive with charisms, it is quite likely that a prophet who has a stance or ‘holding’ in that church may feel his standing to be threatened by our arrival.
In a church where there are one or two Spirit-filled prophets, known to the rest of the congregation for their true visions and their healing ability, a Dark vision by those so revered … to the effect that we Lightworkers are ‘sent by Satan’ might easily be believed.
If action is taken to cast a Lightworker out of a church in this way, I wonder if it might be helpful to talk with the pastor or minister about fitting in with the prevailing prophets, and helping them feel at ease? I say ‘I wonder’ because when this happened to me some years ago, I was too devastated by the casting out to approach the pastor about it later through dialogue.
To my way of feeling, there is nothing worse for me, as a Lightworker, than to be accused by several good Christians of being the very opposite of what I truly am. On the other hand, it is true that people are people. It would be better to try to talk together and resolve these misunderstandings, than never to address them. This I feel especially to be a good avenue when Lightworkers live in small towns with few choices of places to worship.
I see the likelihood of being ‘cast out’ (in the case of a Protestant church) or ‘excommunicated’ (in the case of Catholicism) as a cause for concern for Lightworkers, Ascensioneers, Pathfinders and Wayshowers.
I hope this blog offers those gifted with the Incoming Light a toehold for interacting with our Christian churches with less concern about blame and judgment by their congregations. First of all, I suggest we attend those churches that look favorably upon charisma. Then if the issue of ‘being different’ or ‘wrong’ comes up, we can talk together about a church’s stance on charisms and charismatic Christianity. It may be we will all gain many new insights in that way.
In love, light and joy,
I Am of the Stars
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